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We have Clinical Key. When we switched from MDC to CK we noticed that there were approximately 8 books in MDC that weren't in CK. We only subscribed to regular MDC not any of its specialties so your content may vary. I don't remember the exact titles because we have since taken them out or unlinked them in our catalog. Searching for SPECIFIC books within CK is a pain. It just isn't as organized as MDC. Additionally you can't search for a specific title or author. You end up searching the contents of the entire collection. Really all you have is their A-Z title list to browse and there is very poor consistency with how they treat the titles and authors within CK. Some books list the author with the title, the others don't. Then you have areas where clearly the information didn't come through. Examples: Abeloff|||s Clinical Oncology. Replace the | with a square (if you are IE) or ? (in Firefox) Gray's Basic Anatomy (as appears in IE, fine in Firefox) Clearly when they loaded the title the system didn't know what to do with an apostrophe and nobody bothered to check if it is displaying properly in various browsers. When you have close to 1000 titles you really need some good way to have an author/title search box for texts. The biggest problem we keep in encountering is the requirement to have a personal login for printing/viewing the PDF of books. You can view the HTML without a personal login but you cannot view the PDF. It is very annoying to our users and we get several calls/emails each day asking how to access the PDF of a chapter. They don't like it. By all rights, access has improved a bit to the books. Before they made changes, you used to have to have a personal login to view the PDFs of both journal articles and books. Now it is just the PDF of books and they now funnel you to the HTML first. In the past you clicked on a book and got a login box almost right away and that made it look like you didn't even have the book in the first place. I personally wish that Elsevier would figure out a better way to deal with the piracy of their books rather than force institutions to have the users use a personal login for PDF access. First Consult is wrapped into Clinical Key. I have had to explain this to several of my users because they are VERY used to just clicking on FC and searching. Now they have to go to CK, create a search, then click on the FC button on the left to narrow results down to just FirstConsult. The other important thing to consider right now is that FirstConsult is available as an app. Users with ClinicalKey can still use that app right now. However, there is no app for ClinicalKey. My hope is that they figure out mobile access to FirstConsult or Clinical Key before they pull the plug. Those are some of the biggest differences/changes that I have noticed. I am sure there are others I haven't covered. Michelle ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------ Michelle Kraft, MLS, AHIP Senior Medical Librarian Cleveland Clinic Alumni Library 9500 Euclid Ave. NA 30 Cleveland, OH 44195 (216) 445-7338 [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Medical Libraries Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Laera Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 5:01 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: demise of MDConsult My problem with ClinicalKey is that it's coming with a slew of journals and resources that are irrelevant. I don't want to pay for things I'm not going to use. Not all of the resources in MDConsult get used either, but the price for the product is cheaper than getting subscriptions to each of the journals that do get used separately. I think ClinicalKey is okay; I don't use MDConsult on rounds and don't foresee using ClinicalKey either. I mainly use the product as a database and I assume, that if I make the switch to ClinicalKey, I would use it the same way. I love the journal collection in MDConsult, but there is no way my library can afford ClinicalKey. As it is, I had to negotiate my MDC renewal this year to keep from tipping the scales on my budget. I have said to every rep I can find that they need to break it into packages. I don't need access to specialties like peds, optho, psych, etc, but I REALLY don't want to lose access to the journals and ebooks I have and that get a lot of use. Elizabeth Laera Medical Librarian, McMahon-Sibley Medical Library Princeton Baptist Medical Center On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Peg Allen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Any news about Nursing Consult or what will be included in Mosby's Nursing > Suite? With the big push for Clinical Key at MLA last year, none of the > Elsevier reps that the NAHRS/MLA Research Committee worked with for > database access to compile the NAHRS 2012 Selected List of Nursing > Journals< > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ajondthf4CaQdE9RLUtGZFZnWVM 3Y3ZOSkhyQmw0SWc#gid=0 > >was > available. Also, no events related to their nursing products. > > In one of the links just found for Nursing Consult via a Google search ( > http://info.nursingconsult.com/ncrelatedlinks.htm), Mosby's Nursing > Consult > is not a link. > > NAHRS members not on MEDLIB: The discussion started with this question > from Mollie Titus: > > ...I JUST received my email "alert" from Elsevier re: MDC is going, going, > gone... Shouldn't be surprised, but still... > > So say they..."The functionality of MD Consult will only be updated through > Dec. 31, 2013, and content will only be updated until access to MD Consult > for North American institutional subscribers ceases completely on Dec. 31, > 2014." > > But as far as Clinical Key content goes, don't you get all of what is > currently contained in MDConsult + First Consult +...whatever else? > > Mollie > > I'm trying to keep up with what each major vendor offers for nursing & > allied health, but it isn't easy.... > > Thanks much - Peg > > > > > -- > Margaret (Peg) Allen, MLS, AHIP, FMLA > P.O. 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