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Hi Kathi,

I'm pretty sure it was a coyote. The bite marks look like fang marks and
I've seen the coyotes hanging around in the past few days. They were
displaced by a housing development. Ahhh, progress. But, I must add, this
is not the first time Lassie has gotten out by unconventional means, one
time he jumped THROUGH a glass window, not a scratch on him, another time,
he went through the cat door after chewing it big enough and this time,
seeing as we had secured the cat door, he just took out the whole window,
casing and all. Can you tell I live in an old farmhouse?



M. Serena Lanza
Sr. Payroll Specialist
New Balance Athletic Shoe, Inc.
Lawrence, MA
978-738-4812



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Wow Serena, these dogs sure are amazing.  For Lassie to have gotten out of
the house without injury is incredible.  Do the bite marks give you any
indication of the size or type of animal?  You were guessing Coyote I
know.

Kathi


Serena Lanza <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi Judy,

Thanks for the suggestions. At this point, fencing cannot be budgeted for
(well, now that I'm only feeding a handful of birds instead of a whole
mess of them......)

What I didn't mention was that sometime during/after the attack, Lassie
jumped out of the house. He was sitting in the yard when we got home. He's
got bite marks on his front legs so I know a battle took place. He's in
good shape otherwise though. I do have very secure pens for the night time
for the poultry yesterday was an aberration we had to leave the house at
3:00 to drive to the family gathering which was in NH. We were able to
round up some of the birds but as they range far and wide, there was no
way to get them all, even with the help of the dogs. Oh, Lassie escaped
the house by knocking a window out of it's frame, broke the screws and
everything.

Also, thanks for the idea of how the young rooster may have met his
demise, I'd never thought of that.





M. Serena Lanza
Sr. Payroll Specialist
New Balance Athletic Shoe, Inc.
Lawrence, MA
978-738-4812



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Oh dear, I am so sorry that happened.
This stirs up old and bad memories.
I imagine that the rooster freaked out do to the carnage in the yard and
flew up or into something and broke his neck. I have seen this happen.
I hope that you are able to fix up a preditor proof enclosure for the
poultry while you are away. You may have to now, and I know it will
change
your MOA because I think you have written about your free range birds.
At this point, knowing that there is a houseing developement going in, it
might be time to start budgeting for a fairly tight perimeter fence. It
may
not keep all of the coyotes out but it will give the dogs some clear
boundries that you can feel relaxed about. I have 5 foot fence along the
road and 4 foot horse fencing around about 2 acres which includes house
and
barn area. The rest of the acrge has hap hazard fenceing. But atleast I
know that the dogs are safe, with their charges with in the fortress when
we
are gone. They all can easily jump four feet but they have learned to
respect the fence.
You will have a time with battle of the coyotes for a term but after a
while, this will fade. However, all those new houses will bring in a
worse
and more lasting problem. People will bring in more traffic to worry
about
and more uneducated dogs. Many of the new people will be clueless as to
why
Feefe and Yoyo should be kept at home in the country. They will be in
shock
and disbeliefe that their gentle oaf could possibly harm a feather of your
chickens. So if you have a pretty good perimeter fence you can more
likely
deter the neighborhood dogs as well as keep yours safe. If you can't
fence
the whole thing, try for a partial area fence.
That's progress.
Judy

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From: "Serena Lanza"
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Subject: [FARMCOLLIE] Slaughter


> Hi All,
>
> We came home last night to find most of our poultry slaughtered. Those
> that were not dead when we found them were so chewed up, we had to
> dispatch them as well. This morning, I found our 35lb Tom turkey who
also
> needed to be dispatched. This turkey would talk to you and follow you
> around like a puppy, he will be sorely missed as he had such a wonderful
> personality. Putting him out of his misery was one of the hardest things
> we've had to do. They have been building a bunch of new houses near us
and
> the coyotes have come out in droves. My Lassie Boy was on patrol all day
> yesterday chasing them off. We had to put him up though when we went out
> last night (family thing, no way to get out of it). We did leave the dog
> out overnight once we arrived home. I'm just heartbroken about this.
Most
> of these birds were raised from either day olds or hatched on our
> property. All I've got left now is a handful of ducks, a couple of
guinea
> hens, three geese and some chickens. I used to have a barnyard of at
least
> 75 birds.
>
> A strange thing we found though was a young rooster, in the barn,
without
> a mark on him but a broken neck. I have no idea how the coyote could
have
> gotten to him, he'd have had to jump through the top of a double Dutch
> door, through an occupied horse stall and then over the stall door into
> the barn. I'm thinking it wasn't a coyote that killed this young roo,
but
> I have no idea what could have. Any thoughts?
>
> The dogs will be out of patrol now 24/7 while someone is home. I'm not
> comfortable leaving them loose unattended. While I know they'd stick
> around for the most part (they've never run off) I'm afraid of the cars
if
> one takes to chasing off a coyote. I think I'd rather loose a 5 dollar
hen
> than one of my beloved farmcollies. What do you guys think? I'm keeping
> the remaining birds penned in their nighttime enclosures for the day
until
> I can get a grip on the situation.
>
>
>
> M. Serena Lanza
> Sr. Payroll Specialist
> New Balance Athletic Shoe, Inc.
> Lawrence, MA
> 978-738-4812
>
>

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