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Paul and Judy <[log in to unmask]>
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Farm Collie Breed Conservancy and Restoration <[log in to unmask]>
Sun, 17 Jul 2005 22:14:51 -0700
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On my search for information on the causes of hip dispasia, it led me to the
ISSR (International Shiloh Shepherd Registry).  They require all puppy
buyers to sign a contract that they will have their puppys hip's tested at
between 18 months and 2 years old!...even if they are to be neutered...I
don't think it has to be OFA though.  They require other tests and that the
puppys are fed certain quality foods.
They have articles on their web site pertaining to litter studies being the
only real way to track and get rid of hip displasia.  I think you can learn
alot from this registry, no matter what you think of their dogs. Do note,
there are several Shiloh registries.  The ISSR is the only one that is
endorsed by the breed founder and goes to great lengths to educate their
breeders.  The dogs can not be registered with this registry unless their
breeders have passed a coarse on breeding, sworn to  the code of ethics and
some other requirements.
Kind of helps you understand why some other breeds have nothing to do with


.----- Original Message -----
From: "jana lashmit" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FARMCOLLIE] genetic health progress

> Gina, thanks for your input.  I've decided to do the DNA test on my dog,
> who may be a noncarrier.  I don't like not knowing!  And I like even less
> the idea of purposely breeding to an affected dog enough times to produce
> enough puppies to "prove" my dog, and even then not knowing for sure.
> I'm going to do the online and 20/20 clinic discount, so it will cost
> $135. which is way less than I paid for the OFAs.
> Do you think the breeder ought to be responsible for progeny testing, or
> should that fall on the new puppy owners?  What about a puppy contract
> with a clause that the breeder pays a portion of the costs for OFA,
> thyroid, and CEA testing, or makes it a condition of even being able to
> buy the pup in the first place?
> Jana
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