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FARMCOLLIE  April 2008

FARMCOLLIE April 2008

Subject:

Re: Fw: Don't use Promeris for Flea/Tick

From:

Seymour MIlls <[log in to unmask]>

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Seymour MIlls <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:00:56 -0800

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  I have not tried this on Ticks, but I can assure you that Buhach or a similar brand of just plain Powdered Pyrethrum Flowers will kill fleas, lice and etc. very quickly on animals and plants without side effects. Use it on your garden and flower plants for insects. It's approved for that application. We use to burn a small mound of it (it creates a smoke that irritates the breathing vents on insects and they suffocate) to kill insects inside a building and it is safer to breath than the mosquito coils, and also for fleas and lice when skinning fur bearers that were trapped, just sprinkle it around the head and they instantly crawled out and died, again from suffocation. On pets and livestock just sprinkle on, down the spine area and top of the head and around ears for lice and fleas because they collect there. Sprinkle on and rub it in a bit. Quickest and safest way I know of. Sprinkle it in your laying hen  nests and on the chickens also if you have a problem of lice there. I wouldn't be without it. Ants don't like it either. Ants don't seem to like wood ashes sprinkled across their trail either.
      On a similar note if you find mange or similar on any of your animals mix up powdered sulfur and plain garden lime 50/50 and rub it into affected area, with a little water to form a paste. Try to scrape most of the scale loose so the treatment can heal the area. It works very fast. Both of these items are safe to use on milking animals or animals to butcher also. I don't like the manufactured chemicals which are not good for the general health of the animals or the owners. The Blood Stopper Powder I have found also uses this as an ingredient and I have used this a couple times. I think mice and voles carry the mange mite and the lice and fleas. Sulfur and Lime use to be the old standby for all Mange Mite etc. problems. 
      A tablespoon or two of Brewers Yeast added to feed is very helpful for any hair/coat problems on dogs or cats also and I'm sure on other animals too. 
  Joel Salatin of Polyface Farm who has written Pastured Poultry Profits, Salad Bar Beef, Family Friendly Farming and The Polyface Farm DVD, uses a bit of Basic H Soap in the drinking water on newly purchased feeder cattle and then he uses chickens to clean up any larvae in the feces later. Far better than the poisons offered by the pharmaceutical industry. Call for the latest catalog from Acres U.S.A at 1-800-355-5313 to learn many natural ways to promote healthy living for people, animals, and in farming. Joel Salatin books and DVD's are sold there. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jill Erisman" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 7:00 AM
Subject: [FARMCOLLIE] Fw: Don't use Promeris for Flea/Tick


I received this email this morning from a friend who has BCs and Corgis. 
I felt it was important to pass it along.

Jill

-----Original Message-----
Permission to cross post to whomever. Got this from Ky Tartan Border 
Collie Club. sue w.

---------- Forwarded Message ----------
After having received this email this morning I went out and researched 
this product and found one particular website that really had nothing 
good to say about it. Their dogs and the people themselves had really 
bad reactions to this product. I know I won't be using it on any of my 
dogs. Figured I would pass this along to everyone I new that had dogs.

Mary

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:58 PM
Subject: Don't use Promeris for Flea/Tick

>  This came over one of my lists...many may have already heard about it, 
> but better safe than sorry. This isn't the first report I've heard, but 
> it is still on the market, and most of us know you can't really depend 
> on Vets being up to date on this sort of thing. Those who have 
> 'collie/herding' type dogs should probably be even more careful. 
> Frankly, having owned Siberians for years, I find it frightening that 
> it affected a Siberian so much. They're usually pretty tough.
>  Sandy.
>
>  This is a very important message to my family & friends who have 
> dogs-cats--and to alert you to the hazard of using a new Flea & Tick 
> Preventative called ProMeris
>  (http://www.promeris.com/consumer/)
>
>  This is a new product designed to be a more effective product than 
> other flea/tick treatments that was just released this year. It is 
> available thru a vet and not currently on-line. I got ProMeris this 
> week for my 7 dogs
>  (6 Huskies & 1 Golden-Airedale), a and the results were debilitating 
> for nearly all of them-including me. Since my incident this week, my 
> vet has pulled it from distribution and alerted the manufacturer, Fort 
> Dodge .
>
>  Here are my results: Within less than 2 hours after applying, 4 of my 
> dogs had vomited from 2-4 times, 3 were disoriented and stumbling, 1 
> was dragging his back leg, 1 was salivating. I had very similar 
> symptoms like an
>  allergic reaction-my lips were swollen, eyes very red, mucous 
> membranes such as eyes, nose, and mouth were stinging. I was very 
> disoriented-dizzy equilibrium and not able to drive. To make this a 
> short story-all 7 of my dogs were admitted to the hospital for 
> Veterinarian care, and 3 of them remained for care, IV fluids and 
> observation for 24 hours. I was in the emergency room. I'm home now and 
> so are the dogs. We're all feeling much better. Vet bills were over 
> $2,500 and Fort Dodge is paying for these. Not only can the product 
> cause this reaction, it has a highly noxious odor that permeated the 
> house and is just starting to dissipate after 3 days.




~Jill M. Erisman
BlueStone K9 Bakery
Charmed One, CD, RN, NA, NAJ "Phoebe" (1/3 OA, 1/3 OAJ)
Diamonds Pretty Li'l Adriana, CD, RN, AX, AXJ, CGC "Ana"
"Midget" (the always on alarm system)
Razi Brina Vom Zwilling Bach, CD, CGC "Brina" (RIP)
Meridian's Blue Ace, CD, HC "Ace" (RIP)=

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