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FARMCOLLIE  July 2008

FARMCOLLIE July 2008

Subject:

Re: Jennifer's Tyson has Cancer

From:

Michael and Jennifer WhiteWolf Crock <[log in to unmask]>

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Farm Collie Breed Conservancy and Restoration <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 7 Jul 2008 18:04:52 -0700

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www.WestonAPrice.org    I am going there right now.....Jennifer

SEYMOUR MILLS wrote:
>  A DOG IS A MEAT EATING PREATOR AND REQUIRES A MEAT DIET. A MEAT DIET DOES NOT CREATE AN ACID CONDITION REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE AMA PREACHES. I STRONGLY SUGGEST  www.WestonAPrice.org  as  an excellent health site for everyone to read. Read especially about Raw Milk, the dangers of Soy and The Skinny on Fat. Weston Price traveled arround the world studying primative health,  and diet in the 1930's and was greatly admired by the medical profession at the time before the pharmachutical companied took over.  Sally Fallon created the site to spread truthful health information. tSeymour
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andrew Nelson <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008 5:20 pm
> Subject: Re: [FARMCOLLIE] Jennifer's Tyson has Cancer
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>   
>> Hi there Jennifer,
>>
>> First, I'd like to say that I have occasionally visited your 
>> website to take
>> a look at your wonderful dogs.  I'm very impressed with what your 
>> breedingshave accomplished; the dogs are gorgeous.
>>
>> I'm very sorry to hear Tyson is not doing well.  My older dog, 
>> Thunder (16
>> years), is Cushingoid.  Although Cushing's is not as serious as 
>> cancer, I
>> understand your deep concern for your sweet pal's health.  I am a 
>> researchbiologist, but I have not done any work with cancerous 
>> tissue; however, I do
>> remember one or two things from lectures I have attended in the 
>> past.  There
>> seems to be a consensus in the scientific community that cancerous 
>> cellsthrive in an acidic environment.  And many of the foods us 
>> humans eat (e.g.
>> cheese, milk, beef,) contribute to the acidity of our bodies.  
>> Althoughmoving the pH of the body from acidic to more alkaline 
>> will not be able to
>> cure cancer, it is likely that it would be helpful in alleviating 
>> some of
>> the symptoms and possibly help with slowing the growth of tumors.  An
>> example of an alkaline diet would be one containing such things as 
>> numerousfresh fruits, vegetables, and nuts.
>>
>> The information I have provided above was spoken to me in regard 
>> to humans,
>> but the same approach may be just as valid for canines since the 
>> biochemicalpathways are not extremely different.  Now, I have 
>> mentioned that cancerous
>> cells enjoy an acidic environment.  This occurs very much so when 
>> excessiveamounts of protein are present in the body.  I'm sure 
>> you've noticed
>> that organisms with cancer become weak.  This is caused by many 
>> things, but
>> the main cause can be contributed to the fact the the cancerous 
>> cells use
>> protein that the body needs.  So, the trick is controlling the 
>> amount of
>> protein such that the body has enough to use without giving the 
>> cancer cells
>> a free buffet.  Cancer cells do not make a huge use of omega-3 
>> fatty acids.
>> Since fish is a great source of such fats and a moderate amount of 
>> protein,a diet containing something like salmon may be a good choice.
>>
>> I do not know how well these approaches will work.  And before 
>> taking this
>> advice be sure to run it by your vet.  I'm not sure where the 
>> thresholds of
>> such dieting stand for a dog.  Anyway, to sum up my advice: look for
>> supplements and/or a diet that will make the body more alkaline.  
>> Avoidexcessive levels of proteins, but make use of good fats such 
>> as omega-3's.
>> Also, it may be worthwhile to go to google scholar and type in 
>> keywords such
>> as cancer, acidic, and alkaline.  You may find many reliable 
>> papers that
>> have been peer-reviewed and published in scientific journals with 
>> resultsthat are useful to you.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Andrew.
>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Michael and Jennifer WhiteWolf 
>> Crock <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> It has been a long time since posting, but I do read the emails 
>>>       
>> I get from
>>     
>>> the Farmcollie list every day.
>>>
>>> Some of you who have been around for 6 years or so may remember 
>>>       
>> back to a
>>     
>>> time that almost 6 years ago we had a litter of 13, and placed 
>>>       
>> many of them
>>     
>>> in new homes...We kept 3 of the pups, and later took 2 more 
>>>       
>> back, one
>>     
>>> because he was being neglected, the other because his 'mom' had 
>>>       
>> a change in
>>     
>>> living conditions and could no longer keep him. We agreed to 
>>>       
>> find him a new
>>     
>>> quality home, but he ended up staying here with us...we just 
>>>       
>> loved him so
>>     
>>> much that we decided not to place him. His former mom has come 
>>>       
>> to visit him
>>     
>>> once a year, involving an all day drive each way....Our current 
>>>       
>> story> involves this particular dog, Tyson. His puppy name was 
>> Visions of Lad, and
>>     
>>> we still have a photo of him on the website getting into his 
>>>       
>> crate for the
>>     
>>> plane trip to his new home in BC Canada. At the bottom of the 
>>>       
>> page there is
>>     
>>> a photo of him with his brother Sky and his father TahTay...
>>> http://www.jenalabs.com/pages/collies.html
>>>
>>> Tyson has been a great dog since he came back to us about 3 
>>>       
>> years ago.  He
>>     
>>> has such a nice temperament that he has been nic-named 
>>>       
>> "Ambassador Tyson".
>>     
>>> About 2 months ago he started slowing down and panting a lot, then
>>> developed high temperature. Blood test revealed high lever 
>>>       
>> enzymes and
>>     
>>> digital X-ray showed spots on the spleen, liver large but not 
>>>       
>> mis-shaped or
>>     
>>> with spots. We started him on high dose anti-biotic to deal with any
>>> infections, and a liver medication, planning for a spleen 
>>>       
>> removal when he
>>     
>>> got infection under control...He got a lot worse, almost died, 
>>>       
>> had IV
>>     
>>> infusion and some days on morphine because of pain...then he got 
>>>       
>> a little
>>     
>>> better but still had high temperature. We did a course of 3 
>>>       
>> weeks of 4
>>     
>>> antibiotics and still no real improvement, and then the tumors 
>>>       
>> on the skin
>>     
>>> erupt....About a week ago he started to get a few lumps, then 
>>>       
>> more and
>>     
>>> more..  last night one of the tumors burst. Vet aspirated 4 of 
>>>       
>> the tumors
>>     
>>> today and looked at the cells and they look like lymphoma cancer 
>>>       
>> cells.> Samples are being sent off the Oncologist and we will have 
>> final results
>>     
>>> Wednesday...but it looks pretty bad...
>>>
>>> We had hoped that he was developing Cushing's disease, also bad, 
>>>       
>> but at
>>     
>>> least manageable. We now suspect that the dark spots seen in the 
>>>       
>> spleen are
>>     
>>> likely also lymphoma tumors. This would explain the whole 
>>>       
>> constellation of
>>     
>>> symptoms he has....
>>>
>>> Does anybody here have any experience with a nutritional or 
>>>       
>> alternative> approach to treating or managing K9 Cancer?  If so, 
>> please let me know...
>>     
>>> We are not inclined to chemo and radiation, as these can be 
>>>       
>> painful and not
>>     
>>> really extend life with any real quality. Our approach will be 
>>>       
>> to keep him
>>     
>>> as pain free as possible, to enjoy as much as he can the time he 
>>>       
>> has left
>>     
>>> with us.  If we can also treat with nutritional supplements and 
>>>       
>> similar, I
>>     
>>> am open to suggestions. I have found a place that sells anti cancer
>>> neutraceutical blends for dogs, Aloha Medicinals. We bought a  
>>>       
>> starting> round from them later today, but he may already be in 
>> stage 4 and it could
>>     
>>> well be too late.
>>>
>>> My mom died in late in May, and now I have to face the possible 
>>>       
>> death of
>>     
>>> one of my dogs....Rough spring/summer time here...
>>>
>>> Jennifer [ & Mike ]
>>> And our DreamDancer Collies....
>>> Cookie and TayTay and Lady and Java and Lucky and Sky and 
>>>       
>> ....still with
>>     
>>> us, Tyson
>>>
>>>       
>
>
>   

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