Sorry if something I said offended you, but to say that a breed never
existed because it was never registered is something that I cannot accept.
The photographic evidence says different. Family histories say different.
Old books say different.
If you cannot access my website where I gather and distribute info about
OTFS dogs, I will print it out and send it to you, however it has so many
links built in, I have no way of knowing where you might want to follow a
link. It would be better if you could get to a library where you could
surf it. The OTFS landrace varied from location to location, the ones in
the east/southeast and New England being the most "collie-like."In the case
of Jacob and Traveler, our dogs are almost identical to Bewick's shepherd,
(Scotland 1790) in looks and function. ( Bewick's shepherd is best
represented in Great Britain by the Welsh Sheepdog) History provides
further evidence that this type is the same dog, as there was a great
influx of Scottish immigrants into North Carolina following the Battle of
Culloden in the mid- 1700s.
Bewick also mentions B/W bob-tailed cur dogs that work very much like
aussies. For these documents go to:
Most people call my dogs "border collies" and there is an ES west of Taos
that has two offspring in the same neighborhood. The owner of one (a tri)
refers to it as a border collie, the other owner has a black and tan that
she refers to as an aussie. This lack of recognition is somewhat
annoying,but not nearly such a problem as a breed becoming so popular that
it becomes the "darling of the puppymills!"
The BW dog I referred to that was registered as a border collie had a lot
of working ability, but no "eye" no "stalking". Had she been merle would
this have occurred to the people? I don't know how they did it or which
registry or what.
The "softer" nature is possibly due to adding The OTFS blood and the ES
blood to the genepool. Possibly from changing the focus from merit
registration to closed genepool registraion. Apparently through merit
registration. I see this as a good thing for border collies. I am not
meaning to offend you. I see absolutely no scientific evidence of the
advantage of a closed registry, but the advantages of open ones are easily
documented scientifically. The ACD/Aussie that is the mother of Traveler's
pups is a very "soft natured" dog in many ways, (Just don't bother her
food!) I don't think that a border collie breeder added ACD blood
purposely, but if he found an ACD cross useful, why not?
I cannot accept the idea that all of our old farm shepherd dogs
dissappeared simultaneously with a huge influx of border collie imports.
My family was one of the first in this country to breed registered
Simmental cattle. The bulls were in the nitrogen bottle on the front porch
and the cows were the varous crossbred and purebreds of other breeds on
our farm that we had found profitable.
I believe that the same thing happened with the dogs. There was no formal
registry for them, so they were deemed less valuable than the imports, used
to augment that genepool and in most cases bred out. I do not believe
that you will be able to prove otherwise. If you have evidence that all of
the ancestors of the registered border collies were imported since 1875, I
would be very interested in it.
If anyone else has information, family anecdotes, photos etc of their old
time farm shepherd dogs, (OTFS) I would love to add it to the information
at my site.
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