What is bi-black? colleen Jill Erisman <[log in to unmask]> wrote: They are not totally extinct as they do pop up on occassion. Very doubtful you would fine one in any of the show lines. They would most probably occur in a pet breeding situation as there is usually little research done into the color genetics of the breeding pair. In fact, the Tri State Collie Rescue recently had what we believe were litter mates. Their names were Sonny and Cher. Sonny was mostly black and white with a little bit of tan points. Cher, on the other hand was predominantly black with white markings, making her look like a way over grown Border Collie! So, as I said, they are not totally extinct, just extremely rare. Which I think is quite sad. For anyone who hasn't checked out Tri State's website lately, please take a look http://www.tristatecollierescue.net/collies.htm. We have in a couple of beauties that are definitely of Farm Collie lineage! Until Later, Happy Training & Safe Journey, Jill M. Erisman BlueStone K-9 Services Charmed One "Phoebe" (hopefully she'll have some titles soon!) Meridian's Blue Ace, CD, HC "Ace" (RIP) Razi Brina vom Zwilling Bach, CD, CGC "Brina" (RIP) Be part of the solution, not just part of the discussion about the solution. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.