The full grown ES- loks very sad to me- my dogs look like they are"smiling" most of the time and have a twinkle in their eyes- the poor fellow in their add looks forelorn. He is also tied BTW in the picture. Hazelanne jan <[log in to unmask]> wrote: At 9:38 AM -0700 7/4/05, Annie Prokop wrote: >Hi everyone, > >There is a breeder in South Dakota that is well- a little unsettling. The >name of the kennel is Triple M- if your on our list owners of Triple M - I >apologize in advance. Don't apologize, Hazelanne. Michelle Mollman and her fellow puppy mill breeders The Brausens at Dakota Winds are tragic examples of people who profit on the suffering of animals because of people's ingnorance. The responsible ES breeders, most of whom are on disscussion list just like this one, are very sad and frustrated by the situation but there's nothing we can do. I doubt they'll get rough collies - except for ES (and why they have ES I have not a clue) they specialize in the current fad breeds and designer mutts. I hope there is a very special place in Hell for people like this. jan