Jennifer, I'll be thinking about you and Tyson. I'm glad his first person got a chance to visit not too long ago. I adopted a german shepherd several years ago, and his owner came back to visit on several occasions. People who think that animals don't have much memory should witness these kinds of reunions. Rocky was always overjoyed to see Jen, even after absences of a couple of years. I've used a pet cremation service here in Eugene and was pleased with their sensitivity and willingness to work with the family. They were willing to pick up at the vet's or at our home. We used them when Hooch, the giant Chessie, died. We sprinkled some of his ashes in the creek, where he spent many happy hours during hot summer weather. Every time I walk down there I think of him. ML, Eugene Michael and Jennifer WhiteWolf Crock <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Tyson held in there pretty good today, probably better than I did to be honest about it. We have to face the inevitable, and though we have the high hopes and best intentions to help Tyson along as best we an can for him, we do recognize that it would be good idea to make arrangements in advance, so that were not running around deep in grief looking for final services on the spur a sad moment. We found a place that specializes in Pet cremation, and at reasonable prices. They do only individual cremation, not mixing a larger number of animals all in one. Everything is done on-site and the best part it is that have a very nice comfortable room set aside for you and your Vet, if it is appropriate not to wait for a natural passing over. If your pet passes at home, they will even come to your home to pick up the body. If someone wanted to, they even allow you stay with your pet after passing, all the way to the cremation room and if you want to stay there until it is all over, they also allow that. I think I might have too hard a time with that though. I am going to have his ashes divided into to 2 containers, one for Mike and I, and one for his other mom, Tracy. I am so glad that when Tracy came here just 6 weeks ago, that Tyson was in good form. We all went on a nice long morning walk to a nearby park with Tyson and 3 or 4 of his K9 family. It was warm and sunny, certainly a good experience to remember for her last visit with him. Tracy did such a great job of bringing him up from puppy hood! It was a sad time when her living arrangements changed 3 years ago from a home with a back yard, and she had to move into an apartment. She put Tyson in doggy day care for 9 months or so where he actually thrived, but the cost was just too high, and it was with great tears and sobbing that she called me to see of I could help her find a new placement for him. Of course I would, but when she drove him down to leave him with us, it was pretty clear right off that I would not find a new placement, and that he would just stay with Mike and I. It has been very special for us that Tracy has stayed in Tyson's life. We would send her pictures every so often, and her annual visits were fun for him. Even with the passage of time, as soon as he smelled her scent, he would get his tail in high gear and start up the slobber kissy engine! We have never regretted that decision to keep him with us. Everyone here knows how individual each dog can be, even siblings from the same litter, and Tyson was unique among the others in the litter...We have certainly enjoyed his contribution to our lives these past 3 years. I am trying to work out how we will modify Tyson's diet to help him deal with the cancer. We have learned that if we can raise his blood alkalinity, it may reduce the rate of cancer growth. Higher protein foods may keep the PH to acidic, so we are looking at non-grain components to feed with less meat. We have also started him on some tablets similar to Tums, that may reduce his acid PH a tiny bit. Some specialists suggest bicarbonate of soda but it is hard to get a dog to drink enough of it mixed with water. I know were pulling small at straws when we have whole hay wagon to deal with, but we both feel that we have to so something. I am expecting his supplements from Aloha to arrive soon. We also got more pain and anti-inflamitory meds from the Vet today, to help him stay more Tysons tumors are coming on strong and fast...I am realistic that he may not have much time, but I am not giving up on him just to let him degrade at a fast rate, or to just get it over with. As long as he is not in bad pain, can get around, likes to eat, and has control of his pee and poo, he will be with us. I remember some other people on the list in years past who had dogs with terminal cancer and reported often on them and how they journeyed together toward the end time. Sometimes it can take a lot longer than a vet may predict, especially of you help the dog with special nutrients or other cancer fighting/immune building supplements, but it might be a very short time too. We cherish every day we have left with his company. Tyson spent the evening on the sofa with me, mostly just panting and looking around the room. Once in a while he would take a few minutes to lick my toes...Of all the dogs here, he has always been the slobber kissy king! His sister Lucky is also a slobber kisser, but not as much as Tyson was is his day! Some of you asked about what diet changes we will be making with Tyson...as we develop more of a concrete idea of what we should be doing, I'll post more on the subject, but in general, we know we have to lower his protein intake, pretty much eliminate all the rice and oatmeal fraction even if cooked with enzymes to make it digestible with K9s, and try to bring up his serum PH toward the alkaline direction. Kelly B., it was good to hear from you again,....Justice was another special boy from the litter, and I know how hard it was for you when he died....I cried along with you way out here in Oregon....and he still crosses my mind from time to time too. It is touching that you have a wind chime in his memory. I would enjoy hearing from you off-list to see how things have been for you in the recent years, if you still have the little farm, and the animals. I babble....and I need to get off to sleep soon, Tyson has had his evening meds and seems pretty content just rest on the sofa..We have some big thunder in the distance, ....the other 6 collies are all worried and running about, ...Sky is whining like a baby and pacing every room one after another! Thunder never bothered Tyson in the least ...He is just laying on the sofa, being a good example for the rest of his collie family, .Just another one of the many reasons he earned the nic name "Ambassador". Too bad they are not paying attention to his fine example.. Thanks again to everyone for all your thoughts and Prayers... Jennifer