Hi, I am new to this list and thought I would introduce myself. My name is Dale and I own an Austrilian Shephard. I had a collie when I was about 16 which was about 35 years ago. When we got the aussie we first looked at collies. I was very disappointed in the collie of today. I came home and went to look at photos of my collie, Lucky, to see if I remembered him right. He did not have that extremely pointy narrow nose and tiny eyes. Not that it was like the aussies. We decided to get an aussie after seeing the collie of today. I don't know if anyone knew is familiar with the kennel that we got him from but the name was Northwinds. I came across your list and thought that I would lurk awhile and see what it was all about. I think I will enjoy it. dale