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In my opinion it is less likely to be a block in the sample needle, as that 
helium flow only feeds the column during the time that the Valco is making 
an injection. Sample needle blockages (and we've had plenty) usually result 
in a small first peak, followed by normal peaks with normal retention times 
(in the case of partial blocks) or no peaks at all (complete block).

It could be something to do with the helium distributor (in front of the 
rearmost Nafion dryer). This stainless steel line with brass Swagelok fittings 
supplies Helium to all the bits of the Gas Bench which need it. If there is a 
leak at one of the fittings, that would reduce the Helium flow to the column. 
Similarly, the very fine capillary which feeds from this distributor to the 
column via the Valco valve could be partially occluded, or the ferrules that 
connect at the distributor or the Valco could also be partially blocking the 
capillary (or leaking). Check these ferrules and fittings, and cut the capillary 
slightly shorter at ecah end if in doubt about whether the ends are clean or 
not (don't chop too much though, otherwise you'll get too much flow and 
short retention times). Whatch out for al those other capillaries when doing 
this though (I always seem to break at least one other one when working 
inside the Gasbench!).

You can check the flow at the outlet of the column (needle valve shut, of 
course). I can't remember exactly what it should be (0.7-1ml/min?) but it is 
stated in the Gasbench manual. Don't bother checking the flow the other 
side of the column (valco side) because (a) you'll have to take the column 
temp down to ambient and take the helium pressure down very gradually 
and (b) the flow rate recommended above is dependent on the colulm being 
there, as it is the major flow restrictor.

Good luck!

Simon




Date sent:      	Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:55:52 -0400
From:           	Penny Higgins <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:        	Sudden change in sample elution times - Gas 
Bench

All,

I've been writing to this list a lot lately. The mass spectrometer is 
finally behaving properly and I am finally trying to fix a problem 
that appeared just as everything else went crazy.

When I run carbonate samples using our Gas Bench, typically it takes 
about 300 seconds for the carbon dioxide sample peak to come out. 
This has been the case for more than a year. Then, literally 
overnight, this changed to about 400 seconds. Nothing on the Gasbench 
was changed during the intervening night.

Since then, I've adjusted the GC temperature, which only changes the 
elution times by a few 10's of seconds at most. I've also adjusted 
the Helium carrier pressure, which makes the peaks come out at the 
right time, but the flow is so rapid that my sample peaks diminish 
far too quickly for an adequate analysis.

What am I missing?

Thanks,

~Penny

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