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Received: from tuba.geo.ucalgary.ca ([log in to unmask] [136.159.90.20]) by elk.uvm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA93818 for <[log in to unmask]>; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:14:36 -0400 from [136.159.90.161] (scanner.geo.ucalgary.ca [136.159.90.161]) by tuba.geo.ucalgary.ca (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA28314; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:49:03 -0600
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Date: 14 Jun 1996 09:05:46 -0600
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Subject: Re: phosphoric acid, use in automated carbonate rigs
From: Wenbo Yang <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi David,

Recently, I worked on both chloride- and sulfate-rich carbonate
samples (mainly calcite) in a 186 m saline sediment core from Death
Valley, California. I didn't realize any potential problems for these
samples and simply used the traditional method of McCrea (1950).
Unfortunately, I got really bad results. The Del values varied up to
560%o for Del C-13 and 53%o for Del O-18. These unbelievable data are
probably due to the contamination by HCl and/or SO2 gas produced by
partial reaction of the chloride and/or sulfate minerals with the
"dry" 100% H3PO4. I started to do a series of laboratory tests using
both laboratory standard and field samples. Finaly, I found that the
85% ortho phosphoric acid (without adding any thing) with reaction
time of 5 minutes (rather than 1 hour) at room temperature can give me
very good results (standard deviation < +/_ 0.2%o for both C and O).

Wenbo Yang
Dept. of Geology & Geophysics
University of Calgary
Calgary, AB, T2N 1N4, Canada
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Tel: 403 220 3026
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In <v02130500ade73759a713@[192.149.148.118]>, David M. Anderson wrote:
>Another phosphoric acid question- Please respond if you have an answer!
>We are running a machine to measure calcium carbonate by the pressure
>evolved-no mass spec! :-(
>(reacting samples under vaccum in a common acid bath at 80 deg C)
>
>Although using the dry acid has been suggested, is there a reason we can't
>just use off the shelf 85% ortho phosphoric acid, avoiding the hydrogen
>peroxide, chromium trioxide altogether?
>thanks,
>dave anderson
>
>______________________________________________________________________
>David M. Anderson (Phone: 303-497-6237, FAX: 497-6513)
>NOAA Paleoclimatology Program, 325 Broadway Code E/GC, Boulder, CO 80303-3328
>______________________________________________________________________
>
>



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