Fri, 4 Jul 1997 09:53:18 GMT
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Dear Steve,
If this helps - I can only agree with Paul Dennis's comments. We use similar reaction vessels
and Louwers-Hapert stopcocks with a very sparing amount of Apiezon grease and find no
problems whatsoever. Normally we react for 6hours after evacuating the vessels and acid
overnight.
Best wishes
Paul
On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 13:19:11 -0500 Steve Nelson wrote:
> From: Steve Nelson <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 13:19:11 -0500
> Subject: high residual gas pressure
> To: [log in to unmask]
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> Dear Listmembers,
>
> Once again I hope to enlist your help. I have built a conventional
> carbonate line and all seems to be working well now except one item--the
> reaction vessels--which seem to contain high residual gas pressures [about
> 40 microns upon expansion into the manifold]. The pressures are high
> enough that the gas transfer rates are slow. It takes 7-8 minutes to
> freeze down 100 micromoles of CO2 and clearly that is too long. This is
> after rough pumping overnight on the acid/sample and then pumping for at
> least a couple of hours with the diffusion pump and a cold trap before
> reaction. I have been letting samples react overnight. Once the CO2 is
> trapped and the residual gas is pumped away, the CO2 will freeze again very
> rapidly if I re-expand it.
>
> My two legged reaction vessel design was copied from a colleage.
> The upper half contains the teflon/o-ring stopcock and the lower half
> contains the two legs for reagent and sample. They are joined with a ACE
> o-ring connection and a clamp rather than a ground glass fitting.
>
> I ran blank vessels to determine whether the residual gas was
> related to the reagent or the reaction. I rough pumped on the vessels
> overnight and then with the diffusion pump and a cold trap, then I closed
> the stopcocks. I left the vessels on the manifold but let them sit
> overnight [assuming the problem is not in the stopcocks]. I also torched
> the bottom of the vessels before closing the stopcocks. Overnight a
> residual pressure of about 40 microns resulted. Hence, the source of the
> residual gas appears to be the reaction vessel itself.
>
> It seems to me that if the problem were leakage, that it would be
> unlikely that all of the vessels would produce such similar residual
> pressures or leak the same amount. Any ideas as to the cause or a possible
> solution would be appreciated. I've struggled with this for quite some
> time now.
>
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