Anyone with questions on this subject should email Mabika Goma at AOE. He
will be very happy to answer your questions.
- General state assessments of ELA, Math, and Science, please contact
Mabika Goma ([log in to unmask]).
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 3:28 PM Rob Stalling <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Greetings all -
>
> It's been a while, so figured I'd ask....Anyone hear of any updates
> regarding the Speech-to-Text for VTCAT-TestNav on a chromebook?
>
> --
> Rob Stalling
> IT Specialist
> Barre Unified Union School District
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 10:50 AM Ryan Dougher <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> Well, their sys requirements
>> <https://support.assessment.pearson.com/TN/testnav-system-requirements-18613791.html>
>> page shows support for Chrome OS 102-106.
>>
>> All I've seen publicly from the AOE is their email *"November 2022
>> Assessment News"* which states the following:
>>
>> *"SUs can review the TestNav8 Online Support
>> <https://support.assessment.pearson.com/TN/testnav-8-online-support-16908292.html>
>> page to find technical specifications and system requirements
>> <https://support.assessment.pearson.com/TN/testnav-system-requirements-18613791.html>
>> for the new general assessment. The test delivery app can also be
>> downloaded from this page. Please note that Vermont will not be using the
>> ProctorCache System. This activity is not required at this time, but please
>> use this information as it is helpful. "*
>>
>> Neither of those links the AOE gave us say anything about *STT support*
>> on the *Chrome OS TestNav app*.
>>
>> That's the issue. TestNav obviously supports Chrome OS. But we're still
>> stuck with old hardware support just to provide STT accommodations for some
>> of our students...which we've had to do for years.
>>
>> *Ryan Dougher*
>> Sr. Systems & Network Admin
>> Information Technology Services
>> <https://www.wsesu.net/departments/it-services>
>> Windsor Southeast Supervisory Union <http://wsesu.net/>
>> 127 State Street, Windsor, VT 05089
>> Email <[log in to unmask]> | 802.674.8202
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 10:40 AM Keith Puffer <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> IF that is the case, should we discuss locking in Chrome OS versions?
>>> (Limiting to v 102)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 10:28 AM Kate Owen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, ummm, I don't want a Governor will sue me or anything, but I have
>>>> *very* good reason to believe that Vermont's Cognia help site will be
>>>> largely a clone of this one for the State of New Mexico that is found at
>>>> https://newmexico.onlinehelp.cognia.org/
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022, 9:54 AM Ryan Dougher <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In Feb 2020, Pearson announced
>>>>> <https://support.assessment.pearson.com/TN/blog/2020/02/testnav-extension-support-to-bridge-the-accessibility-gap-for-high-stakes-testing>
>>>>> they were going to begin piloting the use of "extensions" within their
>>>>> TestNav app to allow for assistive technology such as speech-to-text: *"Pearson
>>>>> plans to launch Speech-To-Text and Word Prediction extensions for TestNav
>>>>> on Mac, Windows, and Chrome OS by the fall of 2020"*
>>>>>
>>>>> That quote specifically mentions these "extensions" would be available
>>>>> for Chrome OS. Which is what we need.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fast forward two years, I cannot find any documentation that implies
>>>>> that the "Co:Writer" extension (which is used for STT) and the like are
>>>>> available on the Chrome OS version of TestNav. All I've been able to find
>>>>> is this TestNAV support PDF from Illinois Assessment of Readiness
>>>>> <https://il.mypearsonsupport.com/resources/training-resources/Assistive%20Technology%20Guidelines.pdf>
>>>>> which the second to last page (Appendix A) implies the extensions are
>>>>> available for the TestNAV "Desktop" apps and MacOS screenshots of
>>>>> "Co:Writer", etc. This is the screenshot I showed in the original email for
>>>>> this thread.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've yet to find evidence online that these extensions are indeed
>>>>> available for TestNAV on Chrome OS, as was apparently stated by Pearson in
>>>>> Feb 2020.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Ryan Dougher*
>>>>> Sr. Systems & Network Admin
>>>>> Information Technology Services
>>>>> <https://www.wsesu.net/departments/it-services>
>>>>> Windsor Southeast Supervisory Union <http://wsesu.net/>
>>>>> 127 State Street, Windsor, VT 05089
>>>>> Email <[log in to unmask]> | 802.674.8202
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 9:45 AM Brian Pena <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There has got to be someone from the State in this group that can
>>>>>> help us get an answer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 9:32 AM Ryan Dougher <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, pretty frustrating that the AOE knew this was a request (STT
>>>>>>> on Chromebooks) and they were heading in that direction with Smarter
>>>>>>> Balance....then they went with a completely different product without any
>>>>>>> further input from any of us (at least not that I saw).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Ryan Dougher*
>>>>>>> Sr. Systems & Network Admin
>>>>>>> Information Technology Services
>>>>>>> <https://www.wsesu.net/departments/it-services>
>>>>>>> Windsor Southeast Supervisory Union <http://wsesu.net/>
>>>>>>> 127 State Street, Windsor, VT 05089
>>>>>>> Email <[log in to unmask]> | 802.674.8202
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 9:03 AM Mark Kline <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Ryan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At this time we're planning to keep some older Macs around for this
>>>>>>>> purpose. Based on the age of the devices they should work OK for 2-3 years,
>>>>>>>> but how things look down the road is hard to say.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, my understanding is that Cognia is an entity within
>>>>>>>> the massive Pearson monopoly. If the AOE didn't require STT capability in
>>>>>>>> the contract I don't see Pearson making an effort. I hope that I'm wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FWIW,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /\/\ ark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Mark Kline*
>>>>>>>> *Director of Technology*
>>>>>>>> *Washington Central UUSD*
>>>>>>>> *Montpelier, VT*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 9:05 AM Ryan Dougher <
>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So the state is going with Cognia to replace SBAC. I've looked
>>>>>>>>> into all the documentation with their TestNav app and I'm not seeing that
>>>>>>>>> STT is available for the Chromebook kiosk app, which is concerning. All of
>>>>>>>>> the screenshots for STT show MacOS and the documentation appears to
>>>>>>>>> emphasize STT being available for the TestNav "Desktop" app.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We're a 1 to 1 Chromebook SU. It's been a pain for years to keep
>>>>>>>>> some older Macbooks limping along to be able to provide the STT
>>>>>>>>> accommodation for some of our students. We were told by the AOE that
>>>>>>>>> Smarter Balance *could* provide STT for their Chromebook kiosk app, but it
>>>>>>>>> was going to cost an additional licensing fee. The AOE said they were going
>>>>>>>>> to try to work this into the new budget when they renewed with Smarter
>>>>>>>>> Balance. Unfortunately it looks like that never happened and now they're
>>>>>>>>> going with Cognia. Apparently the AOE will be sharing more accommodation
>>>>>>>>> details "soon".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone else dealing with this?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: testnav_stt.png]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Ryan Dougher*
>>>>>>>>> Sr. Systems & Network Admin
>>>>>>>>> Information Technology Services
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.wsesu.net/departments/it-services>
>>>>>>>>> Windsor Southeast Supervisory Union <http://wsesu.net/>
>>>>>>>>> 127 State Street, Windsor, VT 05089
>>>>>>>>> Email <[log in to unmask]> | 802.674.8202
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