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Garda Ghista <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 9 Jul 2007 04:01:00 -0400
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dear mandi,

It is an interesting post. at my university (Northern Kentucky University)
there is a noticeable salary difference between male and female professors,
with male salaries running from 50-80,000 and female salaries from 30-60,000
- with just a handful of exceptions - those exceptions being highly
ambitious and power-driven women. in every sphere of life it is a struggle
for women to be taken on a par with men. even on the list serves the
discrimination is sometimes remarkable.


On 7/9/07, Mandi Smallhorne <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>  I've been interested in the history discussed here, as I too, even on the
> other side of the world, remember the 'Stokely Carmichael' quote well.
> It's been my experience that, in hindsight, we expect all radicals to have
> embraced all the 'right' ideas from the outset - whereas in truth, many
> people start out with a beef about one particular right (eg, integration in
> the States) and this, over time, and if they are thoughtful people, forces
> them to extend the logic to other areas of oppression, too. For example, the
> Communist Party in South Africa's first well-known slogan was,
> embarrassingly, "Workers unite and fight for a white South Africa!" (see
> quote below from Wikipedia, which gives a potted outline).
> It's been quite a disappointment in South Africa to come out of all those
> years of struggle, only to find that (in spite of all the good stuff said in
> our Consitution and excellent female representation in the corridors of
> power) we still have to fight the feminist fight. But why would you expect
> oppressed men to give up the one area where they feel powerful? The white
> miners in SA were oppressed, in their view, by the capitalist overlords and
> government, but until they were forced to see different, they reveled in
> their little bit of power over black miners.
> Sexism, in my view, is one of the most deeply entrenched attitudes of them
> all. We've been fighting it for how long now, and yet it persists, even in
> the heartland of academia - as someone pointed out, would Larry Summers have
> been half as comfortable about saying Black students have innate inabilities
> as he was about saying that re women?
> Mandi
> The Communist Party of South Africa first came to prominence during the
> armed Rand Rebellion<>by white mineworkers in
> 1922 <>. The large mining concerns,
> facing labour shortages and wage pressures, had announced their intention of
> liberalizing the rigid colour bar within the mines and elevate some blacks
> to minor supervisory positions. (The vast majority of white miners mainly
> held supervisory positions over the laboring black miners.) Despite having
> nominaly opposed racialism from its inception, the CPSA supported the white
> miners in their call to preserve wages and the colour bar with the slogan
> *"Workers of the world, unite and fight for a white South Africa!"*. With
> the failure of the rising, in part due to black workers failing to strike,
> the Communist Party was forced by Comintern<>to adopt the Native
> Republic<>thesis which stipulated that South Africa was a country belonging to the
> Natives, that is, the Blacks. The Party thus reoriented itself at its 1924
> Party Congress towards organising black workers and "Africanising" the
> party.

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