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Nathan Bryant <[log in to unmask]>
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Vermont Skiing Discussion and Snow Reports <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 5 Jun 2016 17:38:05 -0400
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Ya, the Glacier Rond is fall-you-die terrain. It's the big white slope 
above the ice cliff:

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/12771611_10154132792721842_5794931413063923930_o.jpg

Given that it's fall-you-die and 100% lift serviced, if you're not on 
something like Marker Baron/Duke, you'll be on tech bindings with the 
toes locked and praying to God.

It sounds like there's much bad judgment here that the choice of 
bindings is the last of the worries. But that's Cham for you... there's 
always another poodle running around.

On 6/5/2016 9:29 AM, Jonathan S. Shefftz wrote:
> Even before I switched exclusively to skimo race binding (e.g., http://skimo.co/compare-race-bindings), I never had any problems staying in regular Dynafit bindings set within the normal chart range (i.e., significantly below what I previously used for alpine downhill ski racing).
>
> More importantly though, thanks for the link to the Snowheads forum post.
>
> I had found her blog post previously from a TGR forum post.
> The commenters there seemed to be nodding along with her conclusion that:
> "i’m paying the price for the recklessness of others, for a failure to respect basic mountain rules."
> ... which I found very puzzling since even based on her own account, the situation seems to have been the exact reverse.
>
> And indeed here's an account posted at the Snowheads forum to that effect:
>
> *****
>
> OK time for a rant, or rather saying what the mountain Professionals stood next to me on the bridge on the Midi said but will not say in public due to business reasons.
>
> I was on the bridge on the Midi watching the events in the above unfold. Minna got hurt because she and others were very stupid. She did not get hit by anyone's slough, she was skiing much to wildly for the location, let alone the conditions (and I'll come to that in a min). The person in front - about 10 seconds ahead had just crashed spectacularly (something not mentioned in any of the blog or similar accounts I've read) so she should have already stopped.
>
> There was a stupid amount of pushing and shoving getting onto the lift in the morning, most of this IMHO was due to pent up frustration at the lift opening 2+ hours late - no excuse for the pushing, but none for the lift being late either, it was open the day before and we get fresh snow 50+ days a year, deal with it CMB the rest of the ski world does.
>
> The snow was fresh and deep, but light and heavy from the same storm on a sun and rain layer, so risk 4 of 5.
> The first skiers into the Rond let rip, skiing it as though mid winter conditions and lo consequence terrain. Yes they are both very good skiers, but AFAIK neither has much avalanche training and one if not both of them have had previous near death (as in wake up in hospital many having been very luck to be rescued) experiences in the past.
>
> There were way to many people trying to ski the Rond, but as for pushing and shoving, the second skier of the day was in the second bin, so hows that for pushing past everyone!
>
> Skiing with your Tech (dynafit) bindings locked in no fall terrain, where you are considering one turn at a time can be a sensible option. Skiing at speed, regardless of turn size or snow conditions with you toes locked out is very stupid and Minna's injuries show. This is exactly what my physio said when I broke my ACL (by standing on a pebble ) 19/20 knee injuries in the valley are form wrongly used/set bindings.
>
> Please be careful out there and don't blame others for your own stupidity.
>
> On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 07:56:20 -0400, roger Klinger <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Interesting Nate.  I, like Denis, refuse to crank them. Din 6.5 for a 175
>> lb person who is not known for skiing smoothly. Never understood people
>> cranking them.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 11:41 PM, Nathan Bryant <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That seems anomalous, unless your feet are huge. My Dynafit setups won't
>>> stand up to the slightest bit of chatter, even with very smooth technique,
>>> until at least DIN 8.
>>>
>>> On 6/4/2016 9:28 PM, Bogandenis wrote:
>>>
>>>> What I get from this is that the level of testosterone poisoning was
>>>> seriously high.
>>>>
>>>> My ski mentor, a great skier and wise man, once asked me why in lleh was
>>>> I using DIN 10 when I hadn't raced for years.  He said I was far too good a
>>>> skier to do that.  He was about 200 lbs. and used a DIN 5.5 for teaching
>>>> and recreational skiing.  I was about 190 then and am now about 170.  I
>>>> followed suit and have been using 5.5 on both alpine and AT (Dynafit) for
>>>> some 10 years.  I've had less than 5 releases in that time and all were
>>>> necessary.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
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