also, it would require an overnight in Hamilton because the flights all
leave early-morning, so factoring that in, the travel time is much longer.
I'd rather spend a few more hours in an airport than 4 hours of driving and
a night in a hotel plus the extra hotel expense. I can't do the all-nighter
overnight drive to get to an airport at 5am. Too risky, exhausting and
inconvenient. We'll likely fly out of Syracuse.

Hoping to get more input on which destination. Both are good and both have
been getting snow.

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 3:47 PM, Sharon Heller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> nice idea, however, the drive is closer to 4 hours from where I live and
> then it's 8 hours of flying after that, so 12 hours.
>
> flying from Syr is 1 hour drive and 12 hour flights. Probably with the
> border crossing would take about the same time and not worth the chance on
> the drive in snowy weather which could make travel time significantly
> longer.
>
> Plus we are all using Delta skymiles. I would consider banking the miles
> for another trip if it made sense, but at this point it doesn't look like
> it saves much time. I'll look into it further later.
>
> On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Leigh Daboll <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Or, you could do what MikeR did a few years ago:
>>
>>
>>
>> Drive the 3.5 hours from Ithaca to just across the border in Hamilton,
>> Ontario and use their nice little uncrowded airport to fly non-stop direct
>> from Hamilton-Calgary (avoiding airport customs as well, BTW) for very
>> cheaply on Westjet.  From Calgary, I suppose you can also do a  plane
>> change in Calgary and fly directly to Cranbrook, BC (which is only an hour
>> from Fernie and may even have some direct flights from Hamilton), and do
>> the circuit backwards. I think only AirCanada flys to Cranbrook, but you
>> can still fly AirCanada at Hamilton.
>>
>>
>>
>> The total travel time Ithaca-Calgary will then be less than 8 hours,
>> including the drive to Hamilton, with no change of plane required. You
>> can’t get on multiple planes and get to either Bozeman/Helena, Montana or
>> BC any other way in any less time.   Check it out if you don’t believe me.
>> Westjet is great.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also check:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.cheapoair.ca/
>>
>>
>>
>> (the best airfare site on the web right now – automatically shows cheaper
>> options on nearby days)
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From:* Vermont Skiing Discussion and Snow Reports [mailto:
>> [log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Sharon Heller
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 3, 2018 1:43 PM
>>
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* Re: [SKIVT-L] Western Ski Trip
>>
>>
>>
>> We found on-mtn condos for $200-250/night for 4 people at Big Sky. Really
>> seems reasonable for ski in walk to lift lodging.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the beta on the driving...so essentially the driving would not
>> necessarily be more difficult, just longer.
>>
>>
>>
>> So now it boils down to snow. Who is getting the most snow and the most
>> frequent snow.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any other factors to consider?
>>
>>
>>
>> Gas prices are higher in CA, and more driving so ground transp will be
>> higher.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lodging prices are pretty similar. Hot springs on both routes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Travel to from MT seems a tad easier than CYY, but that can vary with
>> weather. It's 3 planes no matter for us from SYR/ROC/ITH
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Leigh Daboll <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> You will not have any mountain passes to contend with in BC other than
>> the initial drive from Calgary to KH over the KH pass.  The drive south
>> form KH to Fernie is easy going down the Columbia Valley, and the return to
>> Calgary from Fernie is also easy prairie driving.  Make sure you take a day
>> and hit Castle Mountain while you are at Fernie (probably on the last day
>> on the way back to Calgary).  Cheap tickets and a cool mountain.
>>
>>
>>
>> I love all these places but I can’t afford to stay on mountain anywhere
>> around Big Sky, which means a slog in and back from Bozeman each day.  Also
>> remember, the exchange rate is pretty favourable right now.  As well, the
>> Super 8 in Fernie is simply the best Super 8 I have ever stayed at –
>> amazing quality accommodations for the price.  I’m not sure why that Super
>> 8 is so much nicer than any other Super 8 I have ever stayed at.
>>
>>
>>
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>> *Barrister & Solicitor*
>> *1991 Hansler Street
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>>
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>> *From:* Vermont Skiing Discussion and Snow Reports [mailto:
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>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 3, 2018 11:32 AM
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* Re: [SKIVT-L] Western Ski Trip
>>
>>
>>
>> We plan to rent a full size SUV and that's what we usually do when
>> there's 4 of us traveling together. Typically they do just fine on whatever
>> tires they put on them and we've never had a problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> From my experience, driving around MT is much easier than driving through
>> the mountain passes of BC. We'd have significantly more road time with the
>> BC trip which is why we are leaning towards Montana at this point. Plus, we
>> go to BC all the time. We've been to MT twice and absolutely loved it. Pam
>> and Tom have never been, so Mark and I would love to take them.
>>
>>
>>
>> Where are you now Kevin?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 11:22 AM, Kevin Broderick <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Big Sky has been having a kick-ssa season; if not for the lodging and
>> ticket cost, I'd have been there rather than poking around in the Jackson
>> b/c over Christmas. Bridger has also been doing pretty well and I believe
>> is 100% open. You could also hit Chico between BS and Bridger for soaking.
>>
>>
>>
>> KHMR and Fernie are both pretty cool, too, and may be getting more
>> favorable weather right now, but the food and drinks are kcuffing expensive
>> and they insist on burning burgers per Canadian federal regulations. Given
>> the BC regs on snow tires, it may be easier to find an appropriately-shod
>> rental in Calgary than in Montana, and the drive to/from Big Sky is not one
>> I'd want to be doing without snow tires.
>>
>>
>>
>> Driving either doesn't seem all that bad to me, but living in Montana
>> tends to affect one's sense of driving distance.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 8:54 AM, Sharon Heller <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> We have plane tix for Denver for the last week of January but since they
>> aren't getting much snow we are going to change our flights.
>>
>>
>>
>> We can only go the following week so we are likely to change the dates to
>> Jan 31-Feb 7
>>
>>
>>
>> We have 2 choices we are trying to decide. Perhaps you can weigh in and
>> help us with this decision.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Montana: We would go to Big Sky 3-4 days, perhaps a day at Bridger and
>> 2 days at Fairmont Hot Springs with skiing at Discovery. We would fly into
>> Helena because it is more affordable than Bozeman. This trip has less than
>> 7 hours of driving and much of it is not in the mountains and is pretty
>> easy.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. Canadian Rockies: Fly into Calgary, drive to Golden and ski KHMR 3
>> days, then drive to Kimberly with stop at Radium Hot springs for a soak,
>> then to Fernie for 3 days. This trip requires at least 10 hours of driving
>> in the mountains.
>>
>>
>>
>> Both of these trips are MaxPass destinations, with the exception of
>> Discovery but those tix are just $50 and we'd do the ski n stay with
>> Fairmont HS.
>>
>>
>>
>> Big Sky base 44"mid  and 66"top
>>
>> Kicking Horse base 57"
>>
>> Fernie 46"base 54" top
>>
>>
>>
>> Which destination would you choose and why?
>>
>>
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