You know matt it is funny that you mentioned the shop thing. When i brought
mine to the morons at ski market here in RI they were like what are those? When
i picked them up the guy who mounted them sure did remember doing my skis, he
liked em but like everyone else in RI they are stupid. I am the only person in
my whole state that skis on igneous. Impressive huh? I am itching to ski them
but am its not gonna happen this weekend. Its not worth it yet, waaay too
warm. Maybe next weekend they will have a lot open.
~CHris
Matt Duffy wrote:
> Dana Dorsett writes:
>
> piercing,
> > >high pitched whine [snip]
> >
> >Do they really sing a bit for you?
>
> Yeah... and what a voice...
>
> >I had some Blizzards of the '80s that
> >had a ~400hz ring to them
>
> What are we talking about here? Tuning forks? Triangles?
>
> >when you knocked them together that was also
> >audible at speed on hard snow with the edge set. (Not enough high
> > >frequency dampening in that case- fun though they were! :-)
>
> Funny you mentioned "knocking them together". The first thing I noticed
> about them was just that, as I was taking them out of their packing. It was
> more of a deep, bassy punching sound than a some wind chime. If you were to
> get clunked over the head with them, it would, uh.. mega hurt.
>
> With edges set in that compressed granular, uneven and awful surface,
> they made a searing whine like a hockey skate-sharpener. So that is what you
> would call "not enough high frequency dampening"? Seems like that was a
> _positive_ effect to me. The skis were super dead-on stable and sliced into
> it EASILY. I've skied that type of surface on skis with those fancypants
> 'piezo-electric dampeners' before, and must say that the Igneous skis
> vibrated AT LEAST 5 times less! Plus they sounded *really* vicious when
> rounding corners. For whatever trivial value "sound" is in a ski, the
> Igneous certainly are screamers!
>
> You did make me think a while back when you first mentioned the dampness
> factor, as well as torsional rigidity. To that, I now say:
>
> Dampness shmampness! I don't use aerodynamic racing poles, I don't wear
> a spandex racing suit, and I've put the whole 'dampness' debate as far
> behind me as the dampness in my kid's diapers when he was a baby!
>
> For whatever torsional rigidity is worth, I tested how much I could
> "twist" my other skis and compared the results to the Igs. If I exerted
> myself, I could indeed twist the mass market skis minimally. The Igs were
> *impossible* to twist.
>
> Maple wood core remember! I think that's the main key to any and all of
> the qualities I've seen thus far (though the extra wide steel edges probably
> are responsible for that awesome, full sounding, eminating screach).
>
> Also, keep in mind that those old, yellow Salomon DR9 bindings have
> that frivolous red rubber boot underneath, and other "suspension" gadgets
> for people looking for that extra one millionth of a second on a race
> course. Not even a slight factor in the way and the where I like to ski. I
> like the bindings 'cause they don't prerelease; they're big and beefy just
> like the skis they're mounted on. The DIN goes up to 14 (and I weigh 145)
> and convieniently - they match up with the graphics on the skis quite well.
> (I had this in mind when choosing the graphics, but again, trivial).
>
> > >The feel to those things are totally different.
> >
> >OK I'm interested- different from what?
>
> Different from anything I've ever tried in my young skiing exhistance.
> (This is my 9th season).
>
> > How do they stack up next to say, the X-Scream Series, K2 Seth
> > >Morrison, or other mid-to-fat cruiser skis?
>
> Well, gotta be totally honest, I haven't tried any of those particular
> models. I have used Volant Powerkarves, which I thought were great. I only
> got to use them in powder, so what kind of test was that? When I ski powder
> on the Igneous, I'll be sure to let you know what I think. The dimensions
> are 108-76-100, so I'm thinking they'll at least be 'ok' ;)
>
> The next closest comparison (in fatness) would be my Elan SCX's. I'll
> always have a place in my heart for those shapely red darlings, but I can
> tell you they would have sucked yesterday. Just not enough meat in
> comparison to my latest boards.
>
> An employee of the Downhill Edge in b'town (where the binders were
> mounted) was in awe. He said that he recently worked for K2, and the Igneous
> design reminded him of the AK Launcher, only the Igneous just seemed like a
> lot more ski. You shoulda seen the scene I caused by walking in there with
> those things. It took about 45 seconds to develop a small crowd around them.
> Mostly, it was employees taking turns drooling, oohing and ahhing as they
> passed them back and forth. They all checked them out completely & flexed
> them with "oh wow!"s
> and asked me to 'please stop by after you've skied them to tell us what
> they're like'. I talked about them a bit, including the all the soggy, rigid
> technical jargon I'd heard as skepticism. The invariable response to that
> was a scoffing smirk as if to say 'that's ridiculous' and one guy even
> "Um... I THINK your friend is trying to make you paranoid. I'd be jealous
> too. I AM jealous!"
>
> When I picked them up (amazing how they turned 'em around overnight,
> when everyone else was waiting 10-12 days), the guy who mounted them came
> out from the back room with them and said: "These things are sweet! Let us
> know how you like them..."
>
> >
> >>>In the windpucked moguls, it was a little tougher to stay right on >>>top
> >>>of
>
> >
> >I'm curious was this a "banana peel" effect, like the skis seemed to >want
> >to accellerate for the fall-line ahead of your anticipation, or >was it
> >more like they'd cut the fall line if you didn't consciously >steer for it?
> >(First impressions are important!) You can learn to >ski bumps on most
> >anything, but some are just more natural-born-bump >skis, ususally skis
> >with a lot lesssidecut than the Igneous line. >Did you feel like you were
> >getting air-mailed on them at all?
>
> Well, let me reiterate: WINDPUCKED MOGULS. I found myself in the
> backseat on my first run and a half in the bumps, but once again, WINDPUCKED
> MOGULS. It would have taken at least as long for me on any skis to get used
> to that compressed, unforgiving, crater bump field. The snow had the
> appearance that a bizillion soccer balls had been pounded into it
> everywhere. The surface of the moon is probably smoother. Considering that,
> a run and a half to get a rythym was better than I would have hoped for,
> even on my bump-specific skis.
>
> So, to go back to the models & brands you asked me to compare them too,
> which of those are designed for repeated poundings of the most abusive
> nature AND come with a 3 year, no questions asked warrantee?
>
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