My bad, I didn't notice the link was the top of the thread.

When they talk about the "Elevation Crew", the Elevation is a bar in
Chamonix.  I believe it is owned by Brits, but it is very popular with the
locals.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Iski Stowe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Turns out Minna and I have common friends on Facebook.
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
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> http://blog.black-crows.com/en/24-05-2016-shattered-spring/
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>
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Nathan Bryant <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Right, so who wants in on my Cham trip next year? ;-P
>>
>>
>> On 6/5/2016 9:43 PM, Mark P. Renson wrote:
>>
>> It's where Trevor Peterson met his demise.  So, naturally this descent is
>> featured in the film "Edge of Never" which I enjoyed.
>>
>> Mark P. Renson
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:38 PM, Nathan Bryant <[log in to unmask]>
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ya, the Glacier Rond is fall-you-die terrain. It's the big white slope
>> above the ice cliff:
>>
>>
>> https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/12771611_10154132792721842_5794931413063923930_o.jpg
>>
>> Given that it's fall-you-die and 100% lift serviced, if you're not on
>> something like Marker Baron/Duke, you'll be on tech bindings with the
>> toes locked and praying to God.
>>
>> It sounds like there's much bad judgment here that the choice of
>> bindings is the last of the worries. But that's Cham for you... there's
>> always another poodle running around.
>>
>> On 6/5/2016 9:29 AM, Jonathan S. Shefftz wrote:
>> > Even before I switched exclusively to skimo race binding (e.g.,
>> http://skimo.co/compare-race-bindings), I never had any problems staying
>> in regular Dynafit bindings set within the normal chart range (i.e.,
>> significantly below what I previously used for alpine downhill ski racing).
>> >
>> > More importantly though, thanks for the link to the Snowheads forum
>> post.
>> >
>> > I had found her blog post previously from a TGR forum post.
>> > The commenters there seemed to be nodding along with her conclusion
>> that:
>> > "i’m paying the price for the recklessness of others, for a failure to
>> respect basic mountain rules."
>> > ... which I found very puzzling since even based on her own account,
>> the situation seems to have been the exact reverse.
>> >
>> > And indeed here's an account posted at the Snowheads forum to that
>> effect:
>> >
>> > *****
>> >
>> > OK time for a rant, or rather saying what the mountain Professionals
>> stood next to me on the bridge on the Midi said but will not say in public
>> due to business reasons.
>> >
>> > I was on the bridge on the Midi watching the events in the above
>> unfold. Minna got hurt because she and others were very stupid. She did not
>> get hit by anyone's slough, she was skiing much to wildly for the location,
>> let alone the conditions (and I'll come to that in a min). The person in
>> front - about 10 seconds ahead had just crashed spectacularly (something
>> not mentioned in any of the blog or similar accounts I've read) so she
>> should have already stopped.
>> >
>> > There was a stupid amount of pushing and shoving getting onto the lift
>> in the morning, most of this IMHO was due to pent up frustration at the
>> lift opening 2+ hours late - no excuse for the pushing, but none for the
>> lift being late either, it was open the day before and we get fresh snow
>> 50+ days a year, deal with it CMB the rest of the ski world does.
>> >
>> > The snow was fresh and deep, but light and heavy from the same storm on
>> a sun and rain layer, so risk 4 of 5.
>> > The first skiers into the Rond let rip, skiing it as though mid winter
>> conditions and lo consequence terrain. Yes they are both very good skiers,
>> but AFAIK neither has much avalanche training and one if not both of them
>> have had previous near death (as in wake up in hospital many having been
>> very luck to be rescued) experiences in the past.
>> >
>> > There were way to many people trying to ski the Rond, but as for
>> pushing and shoving, the second skier of the day was in the second bin, so
>> hows that for pushing past everyone!
>> >
>> > Skiing with your Tech (dynafit) bindings locked in no fall terrain,
>> where you are considering one turn at a time can be a sensible option.
>> Skiing at speed, regardless of turn size or snow conditions with you toes
>> locked out is very stupid and Minna's injuries show. This is exactly what
>> my physio said when I broke my ACL (by standing on a pebble ) 19/20 knee
>> injuries in the valley are form wrongly used/set bindings.
>> >
>> > Please be careful out there and don't blame others for your own
>> stupidity.
>> >
>> > On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 07:56:20 -0400, roger Klinger <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Interesting Nate.  I, like Denis, refuse to crank them. Din 6.5 for a
>> 175
>> >> lb person who is not known for skiing smoothly. Never understood people
>> >> cranking them.
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 11:41 PM, Nathan Bryant <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> That seems anomalous, unless your feet are huge. My Dynafit setups
>> won't
>> >>> stand up to the slightest bit of chatter, even with very smooth
>> technique,
>> >>> until at least DIN 8.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 6/4/2016 9:28 PM, Bogandenis wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> What I get from this is that the level of testosterone poisoning was
>> >>>> seriously high.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> My ski mentor, a great skier and wise man, once asked me why in lleh
>> was
>> >>>> I using DIN 10 when I hadn't raced for years.  He said I was far too
>> good a
>> >>>> skier to do that.  He was about 200 lbs. and used a DIN 5.5 for
>> teaching
>> >>>> and recreational skiing.  I was about 190 then and am now about
>> 170.  I
>> >>>> followed suit and have been using 5.5 on both alpine and AT
>> (Dynafit) for
>> >>>> some 10 years.  I've had less than 5 releases in that time and all
>> were
>> >>>> necessary.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sent from my iPad
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