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USA Debating in the WUDC Format <[log in to unmask]>
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A generous offer, but might I suggest you name it something distinctive to your region/campus...?

the "USU Open" sounds too much like our USU National championship...I realize that was John's intent, but I would still prefer a title that's distinctive to the tournament rather than a spin off from our national final...

I'd support The John Meany Classic, since he's contributed so much to forensics over the years. 

John is a huge supporter of outreach to virtually everything and everybody (young students, other cultures, etc.) so perhaps a title that radiates that inclusiveness - maybe one that welcomes Canada, Mexico, China and all the world to attend 

How about: The SoCal PanAmerican Classic....or just The PanAmerican...or The SoCal PanAm   with time out during the event to celebrate outreach efforts like those John does so well. Find a way to embrace California's inclusive nature in the title?

Or, if Poly wants a distinctive title, apart from Claremont, either geography or a clever reminder of what make Cal Poly so wonderful might be nice..."BP by the Bay"  or "The Engineer: A World Debate Tournament by the Bay"

You get the idea.

Hi to all my friends


Brent Northup
Carroll of Montana
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From: USA Debating in the WUDC Format [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of John Patrick [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 12:58 AM
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Subject: Re: Hi to all

Given John's decision to remove Claremont from the schedule in fall, Cal Poly is open to hosting the USU Open if we can work out the dates and needs of the community. We cant make promises, but we'd like to explore the possibilities. Feedback as to whether this is of interest to the community.

John Patrick

> On Jun 19, 2014, at 10:07 PM, "Meany, John" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi Brent,
> Please remove the Claremont Colleges tournament from the BP calendar. Have
> 15 tournaments and conferences planned on campus for the year and
> something had to give, at least in the early fall. I have a redesigned
> debate tournament model that I would like to introduce this year (was
> hoping to do it in October but need to be a good citizen about campus
> facility use) but may be able to do it in the spring.
> One other note ­ Greater Los Angeles is an extraordinary international
> alpha city, with complex, thriving, enriching, and influential populations
> and cultures from throughout the world. I understand how it is that an
> imagined Los Angeles may escape its cartographic boundaries and represent
> all peoples and places ­ it is Druze, Russian, Peruvian, Japanese, Jewish,
> Azeri, Filipino, Zuni, Indian, Mexican, Fijian, Chinese, ItalianŠit is
> Ethiopia, Hawaiši, Sri Lanka, Armenia, Pennsylvania, Korea, Brazil, South
> Africa, El Salvador, Ireland, Tunisia, Oklahoma, ThailandŠLos Angeles is
> astounding and universal. But for those on the list just interested in
> purchasing an airline ticket, it may be helpful to re-locate future
> Claremont tournaments from the imagination and current psychic-location in
> Eastern US/Canada for a move to the Western US/Canada column.
> Best,
> John
>> On 6/18/14, 6:23 PM, "Northup, Brent" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> HI to all
>> THB it's awfully quiet out there...surely we can find SOMETHING to
>> disagree about.
>> First, congratulations to Bates, Jac & Taylor, for winning USU. My team
>> applauded their win - both because they were exceptional and because the
>> whole Bates program was exceptional. "What's up with Bates?" was the
>> theme on the drive to the hotel that night...
>> And, perhaps I'm mistaken, but in an age when lots of people talk about a
>> male gender bias in college debate, I think I saw a rather larger number
>> of exceptional ladies on that Bates squad. What's the secret?! Please
>> share. (No offense to the gents, of course.)
>> And congrats to Steve Johnson as top judge. For once nice guys finish
>> first.
>> On to business: Let's improve the BP calendar so we know where to go next
>> year.
>> Here's the link
>> EhaWTVUYVNoSkE&usp=sharing
>> And here is an early draft of a Canadian calendar for next year. In case
>> you missed the memo, Canadian tournaments are quite wonderful - nice
>> folk, good teams:
>> d7HdM/edit
>> Send info on tournaments to me, and enjoy your summer.
>> Best wishes,
>> Brent
>> Brent Northup
>> Carroll College of Montana
>> [log in to unmask]
>> 406 459-2371