Sure a sliding scale would be great, but I'm sorry Robert - I'd have
to agree with Jane & Malcolm. While your logic might make sense in a
Utopian society - we live in the real world.
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On Mar 9, 2010, at 9:46 PM, "Robert Riversong" <[log in to unmask]
> wrote:
> Don't even go there. That's the most exquisite rationalization for
> charging fees for information - and often high fees, since the
> corollary is that which costs more is more valued.
>
> The truth is that people value that which improves their lives,
> including many things we would not (at least not most of us) even
> think of charging for, such as friendship, companionship, empathy,
> physical intimacy and sex, mentoring a child, assisting the elderly
> or comforting the dying.
>
> The measure of a healthy and sustainable society is one in which the
> most valuable services are part of a gift economy and the rest is
> bartered.
>
> --- On Tue, 3/9/10, Jane Griswold <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> From: Jane Griswold <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: BSR - VT Solar Hot Water Workshops 2010 Series!
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 8:35 PM
>
> people value more what costs them money - I charge for a
> consultation because the money makes the client pays attention to
> what I say - same with seminars
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Malcolm Gray <[log in to unmask]
> > wrote:
> It costs to formulate and present, reasonable price for the
> information. still live in capitalism. Malcolm/Montpelier Construction
> On Mar 9, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Robert Riversong wrote:
>
>> If you really wanted to promulgate solar options, you'd make these
>> workshops free. Those of us who are most interested in lower impact
>> options are the ones least able to pay such fees.
>>
>> --- On Tue, 3/9/10, hillary haselton <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> From: hillary haselton <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: BSR - VT Solar Hot Water Workshops 2010 Series!
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 2:29 PM
>>
>> For those interested!
>>
>>
>>
>> Solar Hot Water – Workshops – 2010 Series
>>
>> What: Building for Social Responsibility (BSR) is proud to present
>> the 2010 workshop series on domestic solar hot water and space
>> heating. From March 20th, 2010 through October 16th, 2010 workshops
>> are available across the state. These courses are recognized by
>> Renewable Energy of Vermont (REV) as credits towards applying for
>> Solar Thermal Partnership. Learn how to design, install and
>> maintain solar thermal domestic hot water and space heating systems
>> for Vermont climate!
>>
>> When/Where: All workshops run 8am -5pm and include lunch.
>> SHW Day 1 -- March 20th Burlington, VT @Vermont
>> Energy Investment Corp
>> SHW Day 2 -- April 3rd Montpelier, VT @ City Hall
>> SHW Day 1 -- May 15th Brattleboro, VT @ BuildingGreen,
>> LLC
>> SHW Day 2 -- June 24th White River Junction, VT Vermont @
>> groSolar
>> SHW Day 1 -- July 7th Montpelier, VT @ City Hall
>> SHW Day 2 -- August 5th Burlington, VT @ Vermont Energy
>> Investment Corp
>> SHW Day 1 -- September 18th Manchester, VT @ r.k. Miles
>> SHW Day 2 -- October 21th Middlebury, VT @ tbd
>>
>> * Renewable Energy Vermont (REV) Solar Thermal Partnership approved
>> training course. See details below for more information.
>>
>> Who: These workshops are intended for:
>> - Builders who want to encourage their clients to include solar
>> hot water in their building and remodeling projects;
>> - Plumbing and heating contractors who want to learn the
>> specifics of solar installations for domestic hot water and heating
>> systems;
>> - Anyone interested in expanding their knowledge of a
>> sophisticated renewable technology.
>> Cost: $285 One Day, $450 Two Days, $45 Discount to BSR Members. $40
>> Early Registration Discount (2 weeks prior to workshop date)
>> Contact BSR for information on plumber discounts.
>>
>> Details: This course is recognized by REV. Licensed plumbers who
>> attend a 8hr workshop will be eligible to apply for "REV Solar
>> Thermal Provisional partnership". Full Solar Partnership is awarded
>> to Provisional Partners who complete a dw systems with REV
>> oversight. Non-licensed plumbing professionals attending both
>> workshops will receive 16 hours of credit towards eligibility.
>> Solar Thermal Partnership is required to access Vermont renewable
>> energy incentives.
>>
>> Why Solar Hot Water (SHW)?
>> SHW the hottest growing green industries in an exploding green
>> marketplace.
>> SHW is easily incorporated into building plans and installed on
>> existing homes.
>> SHW is the least expensive renewable energy system.
>> SHW has the #1 Return on the Investment (ROI) for the homeowner.
>> SHW makes economic sense.
>>
>> Workshop Benefits:
>> Learn how to design, install and maintain solar thermal domestic
>> hot water and space heating systems for Vermonts climate!
>> Achieve up to 16 hours of REV approved training credits towards
>> gaining Solar Partnership.
>> Start connecting to federal and state incentives that offer up to
>> 60% off the total installation cost of these systems.
>> Create contacts and network with supplies, like minded builders and
>> plumbers.
>> Gain firsthand knowledge from presenter Michael Horowitz who brings
>> 25 years of expert experience to the podium.
>>
>> Workshop Outlines:
>> Day 1
>> Introduction to Solar Domestic Hot Water and Solar Space Heating
>> Systems appropriate for Vermonts Climate
>> Domestic Solar Hot Water Component Details
>> Siting, Sizing and Design of DSHW
>> Installation & Maintenance for DSHW
>> Economic Payback Overview & Marketing Strategies for Solar Hot Water
>> Overview of Federal & State Incentives and the Renewable Energy
>> Vermont Solar Partnership Application
>>
>> Day 2
>> Solar Space Heating Design Details Including Passive Solar and
>> Active Solar Sources.
>> Advanced System Components for DSHW and Solar Space Heating Systems.
>> Troubleshooting for all Solar Systems and Common Components
>> Maintenance Concerns.
>> Introduction to Solar Mathematics for siting and sizing systems.
>> Solar Hot Water Marketing and Economic Paybacks Plus Incentives.
>> Lunch will be provided for all attendees during which networking
>> will be encouraged and access to our sponsors resources will be
>> available.
>>
>> Hosted By: Building for Social Responsibility, VT Chapter of
>> Northeast Sustainable Energy Association.
>> Sponsored by: Sunward, groSolar, Vermont Sustainable Jobs Fund and
>> BuildingGreen, LLC
>>
>> To sign up: Contact Hillary @ 802.825.5957, email [log in to unmask]
>> or visit www.bsr-vt.org.
>>
>> Reserve now while space is available!
>> Building For Social Responsibility
>> P.O. Box 8882
>> Burlington, VT 05402
>>
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