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ISOGEOCHEM  December 2001

ISOGEOCHEM December 2001

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Re: A Good Idea

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siegwolf_r <[log in to unmask]>

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Stable Isotope Geochemistry <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 28 Dec 2001 20:51:49 +0100

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Dear Isogeochem "Netters",

First of all a happy and great new year to all.

As for Laurent Bertal's and Chris Pullan's messages:

I don't see this as advertising. The messages from both collegues
were much more showing up a need we all have: price worthy spares,
supplies and repaires for our equippment.

We must understand that the MS-producers are in quite a difficult
situation. For their existence sake they must satisfy primarily the
sahre holders demand and that is a maximized profit, which is
very often  at the cost of the customers satisfaction and quality
of material and equipment. Such is the economy today. Therefore,
they can not provide parts and repaires for defective equippment at a
price worthwhile, since the profit of this activity has to be maximized
as well and can by no means be subsidized. Recycling of material
and repairs are by far not as "profitable" as selling new material.
Again thats today's way of economy. Therefore, we can only be
glad if there are companies who repair our equipment and sell
spares for a reasonable price.

If there is a way to have access to a list of companies (and if I
remember correctly there once was such a list of email adresses
in ISOGEOCHEM) for spare suppliers and companies, which can do
repairs of our equippment at reasonable prices, this would be
a great help.

The point I want to stress is, it would be good if we  would exchange
names and adresses of companies providing spares and repairs. Maybe
we could have a server slot where we could store adresses and names
with price lists as they are accessible to us from the different
"supply and repair" companies. If this comes from our side on a
dedicated server address I don't think that anybody could have
someting  against it.



Rolf Siegwolf





Chris Pullan wrote:

>  Dear All,

>  I very much like Mr Bertal's idea of 'recycling' furnace parts since
I had been thinking of proposing a similar idea myself. >  Companies
such as
>  my own and CAS, exist to service IRMS and EA researchers with spare
parts, consumables and technical help and try to fill >  any voids left
>  by the manufacturers. We also strive to provide these services at
reduced rates so that you can use your budgets to further >  your
research
>  work and not spend all your hard won funding for the day to day
running of your system.
>  If parts become obsolete or have to undergo redesign to get around
intellectual property issues then their cost becomes >  excessive.
>  Specialised parts are also expensive when only ordered in small
batches.
>  There are probably many unused (new or broken) parts for IRMS systems
that are lying around in laboratories. Many of
>  these could be
>  repaired, if broken, for a fraction of the cost of purchasing new.
Not only does this allow someone to purchase an item for a >  reduced
price
>  but more importantly may make a difference to them being able to keep
their system running. Is it not also a good idea that >  we should try
>  to recycle as much as possible to protect the environments that so
many of you spend your time studying?
>  I would be very interested in obtaining any items that are from
Europa Scientific or PDZ Europa systems, in particular
>  circuit boards, source,
>  collector and autosampler components. The message really is, please
help us to help you.
>
>  I apologise if this is not the usual type of posting that is made on
the Isogeochemlist, but the list is all about helping others >  and we
feel
>  that we can offer more help if we can obtain further supplies of
obsolete or rare components.
>
>  Best Wishes for the New Year,
>  Chris Pullan
>  Sercon Limited
>  [log in to unmask]
>
>
>>           ----- Original Message -----
>>           From: Laurent BERTAL
>>           To: [log in to unmask]
>>           Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:45 AM
>>           Subject: [ISOGEOCHEM] Brocken furnace for EA 1108-1110, Na
1500,
>>
>>           Dear list members,
>>
>>
>>
>>           It is possible that you have unused or broken furnace for
Carlo-Erba, Fisons, Thermoquest elemental analyser for >>    EA
>>           1108, EA 1110, NA 2000, NA 1500. I just looking for heating
element and particularly ceramic parts needed to
>>    rebuilt
>>           new furnace for these equipments. As it is impossible to
find these ceramic parts it will be impossible to repair
>>    furnace and
>>           giving chance to laboratories who haven’t money to buy a
new analyser to continue to work. If you got one, please >>    let me
>>           know, I am ready to exchange them against consumables,
capsules, copper or reagents.
>>
>>
>>
>>           I wish to everybody an Happy New Year.
>>
 >>
>>
>>           Best regards/ Sincères salutations
>>
>>
>>
>>           Laurent Bertal


--
_______________________________________________________

 Dr. Rolf Siegwolf
 Laboratory of Atmospheric Chemistry
 Stable Isotope Research Group / Ecosystem Fluxes
 Paul Scherrer Institut
 CH-5232 Villigen-PSI
 Switzerland
 Phone  : +41 (0)56 310 27 86
 Fax      : +41 (0)56 310 45 25
 e-mail  :  [log in to unmask]
_______________________________________________________

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