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"Hodge, Megan D." <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:12:52 -0600
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Dwight:  what is your hospital policy for  "off label uses" for products
approved in different departments?
Do you require just a consent ? or do you need an IRB?



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael, Dwight [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:53 AM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re: Renal Artery Duplex with Ultrasound Contrast
>
> Contrast for vascular is an "off label" use, like using thrombin for
> pseudoaneurysm repair.  Except that thrombin is specifically labeled "NOT
> FOR INJECTION".
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hodge, Megan D. [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:44 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Renal Artery Duplex with Ultrasound Contrast
>
>
> yes.. in echo contrast is reimbursable.  in vascular... it has not even
> been
> approved and I have found some of the contrast companies won't even
> consider
> vascular contrast unless your institution has an IRB.
>
>       Is that true with those who are using it for vascular now ?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stanley, Jeff [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 8:33 AM
> > To:   [log in to unmask]
> > Subject:      Re: Renal Artery Duplex with Ultrasound Contrast
> >
> > Do you eat the charge for using contrast for both renal art and echo
> > studies?  Or just renal art studies?  The echo sonographers here are
> > looking
> > into contrast agents for the echo studies and are trying to find out
> about
> > reimbursement.  I asked the echo supervisor and she said that she has
> > found
> > ICD-9 and CPT codes for using contrast agents  ???
> >
> > Jeff Stanley BS,RVT
> > The Heart Group
> > Diagnostics-Vascular Lab
> > 4230 Harding Road, Suite 330
> > Nashville, Tennessee 37205
> > (615) 565-6580
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael, Dwight [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 6:52 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Renal Artery Duplex with Ultrasound Contrast
> >
> >
> > NO!  We have to eat the charge.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kelly Estes [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:14 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Renal Artery Duplex with Ultrasound Contrast
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >     How do you bill for it? Is it being reimbursed if you are billing?
> >
> > Kelly Estes RDMS, RDCS, RVT
> > Technical Director
> > MMG Cardiology/Carolinas Healthcare Center
> > Charlotte, NC
> >
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