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SKIVT-L  December 2002, Week 1

SKIVT-L December 2002, Week 1

Subject:

Re: Southridge Chair at Killington

From:

Jim Crowley <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Vermont Skiing Discussion and Snow Reports <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:23:06 -0500

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Reeb asked:

> Does anyone know why the Southridge chair at Big K is separated like it is?

Skip, I believe, has answered this question before. A check of the
archives may prove fruitful.

My short answer would be because it was designed in the mid '70's.

My long answer would be because the chair was built to serve two
purposes, and the only way to do both was with something like a
triangular chair. The first was to serve the relatively steep pitch that
is lower Pipe Dream. Thus, they put in a mid-station at the bend that
allowed one to ski lower Pipe Dream without having to go all the way to
the top across the flats. The second purpose was to get people from the
bottom of the lift over to the Killington Basin trails. The only way to
do this was to continue the lift past the mid-station to the point where
one could skate over to Cascade. Sure, they could have put in the
mid-station half-way up the straight leg, but then there would not have
been a chair along lower Pipe Dream, which violates one of Killington's
designing rules of having lifts situated along the edge of their major
trails. The mid-station was only operational into the early '80's. I
recall disembarking there only a couple times. The only use after that
was bending skiers' poles so that they had to buy news ones in the ski
shop.

I remember skiing South Ridge in its first year. Most everything was
"gladed". They weren't true glades, but rather narrow interconnected
passages between the thick forest. They eventually realized that it was
impossible to make snow amongst the passages, so they widened upper and
lower Pipe Dream and Wanderer to proper trails after a couple years. The
only trails they left untouched on the north side of the lift was
Roundabout, and skiing that today brings back fond memories of the old
South Ridge. Echo Woods (at the top of the triangular lift) remained a
nice mellow gladed area until a major wind storm knocked it down in the
early 80's. It didn't take a genius to predict that opening the forest
on either side of a patch of trees at 3900 feet would eventually lead to
wind damaged trees.

> Has anyone skied The Jug and Jug Handle under the down side of that lift?
> Awesome trails!

They are awesome trails with double fall lines, but they are quite short
for the long, cold lift ride required to ski them repeatedly. The upper
part of that lift has to be one of the coldest in VT (facing right into
the prevailing westerlies). Worth it though on a day when everything
else is tracked out.

All in all, I think South Ridge was a dumb idea. Nobody skis there
anymore, although it was popular for a time in the mid-'80's when there
were long lift lines on the weekends. It's just too flat at the top. I
am of the opinion that they should rip out the South Ridge lift and
re-seed the entire area, letting it return to nature (a la Northeast
Passage, which on the contrary had some decent terrain).

Killington at one time thought about putting in a whole bunch of South
Ridge type trails in Parker's Gore east, over and to the east of the
Juggernaut trail. They had dreams of a high elevation beginner's area,
letting them ski into June just like the experts could on Downdraft.
What a waste of ecologically important, high elevation forest that would
have been! Thank goodness they saw the error in their thinking and
traded the land to the state for some ground where they hope to build a
village near Snowshed. Now there's another wonderful idea!

Decisions made at Killington from the mid-'70's until the late '80's
sucked the life out of the place, at least from an intermediate to
expert skiers point of view. Homogenization was the target, thereby
allowing somebody who was new to skiing to experience all parts of the
mountain. While I agree that it is a good goal, I would prefer to let
that new skier build up their skills on the lower part of the mountain
for a year or two and then encourage them to ski more difficult trails
off the summit. I think that Killington felt as though the average skier
didn't have a long enough "attention span" to make that transition, so
they made it easier for them from the get-go. They didn't think far
enough ahead to realize that once this beginner obtained better skills,
they would soon grow tired of homogenized terrain.

I'll stop rambling now.

Jim

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