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SCIENCE-FOR-THE-PEOPLE March 2003

Subject:

Re: We know enough. It's time to act.

From:

"J. Wyatt Ehrenfels" <[log in to unmask]>

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Science for the People Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:31:38 -0800

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     I for one support the war. This trend of
co-opting discussion groups for political purposes of
questionable relevance to the group is getting old
fast.

J. Wyatt
http://www.fireflySun.com/news.html


--- George Salzman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Friends in Science for the People:
> I sent this note a short time ago to the War
> Tax Resisters listserv,
> and think it may also be of interest to many of you.
> George
>
>
----------------------------------------------------------
> We know enough. It's time to act.
> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:22:55 +0000
> From: George Salzman <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Friends:
>
> I did NOT send the following call to action to
> my entire personal
> list, so I'm posting it here. At the end of the
> Spanish text I have a
> suggestion especially for those of you with
> religious connections,
> another direct way to try to impede the war effort.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Subject: We know enough. It's time to act.
> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:29:32 -0600
> From: George Salzman <[log in to unmask]>
> To: Ramón Vera Herrera
> <[log in to unmask]>,
> José Manuel Pintado <[log in to unmask]>,
> Albar Rios Sánchez <[log in to unmask]>,
> Alberto Cisneros <[log in to unmask]>,
> Aram Falsafi <[log in to unmask]>,
> Celia Medrano <[log in to unmask]>,
> Clara Estow <[log in to unmask]>,
> Clark Taylor <[log in to unmask]>,
> Dan Feder <[log in to unmask]>,
> Edward W. Said <[log in to unmask]>,
> Efrain Barradas <[log in to unmask]>,
> Francis A. Boyle <[log in to unmask]>,
> George Lakey <[log in to unmask]>,
> Greg Palast <[log in to unmask]>,
> Guillermo Monteforte
> <[log in to unmask]>,
> Jacqueline L. and Javier Borda
> <[log in to unmask]>,
> Jim and Mags Petkiewicz
> <[log in to unmask]>,
> Joe Regotti and Jean Walsh
> <[log in to unmask]>,
> John Ross <[log in to unmask]>,
> Jonathan Treat <[log in to unmask]>,
> Jose Castaneda-3
> <[log in to unmask]>,
> Julie Liss <[log in to unmask]>,
> Libardo Rueda <[log in to unmask]>,
> Luis Gómez <[log in to unmask]>,
> Maurice Bazin <[log in to unmask]>,
> Michel Chossudovsky
> <[log in to unmask]>,
> MRPM (Movimiento de Resistencia ...)
> <[log in to unmask]>,
> Noam Chomsky <[log in to unmask]>,
> Olinca Marino U. <[log in to unmask]>,
> Oscar C. Díaz <[log in to unmask]>,
> Paola María Sesia
> <[log in to unmask]>,
> Libertus Radix <[log in to unmask]>,
> Ronald Creagh <[log in to unmask]>,
> Tonatiuh Díaz <[log in to unmask]>,
> Vandana Shiva <[log in to unmask]>,
> Vivian Stromberg <[log in to unmask]>
>
> Oaxaca, March 10, 2003
>
> Dear Friends:
>
> We are living on the edge of a looming human
> tragedy. We must
> focus on trying to prevent it. Enough of the world's
> people already know the
> war is terribly wrong -- that it shouldn't happen.
> Instead of
> continuing with endless analyses trying to figure
> out what Bush and his
> cabal are up to, we must act. I am not persuaded
> that the attack is
> inevitable, despite the mammoth propaganda efforts
> of the two
> governments to assure the world that IT WILL HAPPEN!
>
> On March 6 I sent out a note with 4 suggexted
> steps for action, in
> English. It is reproduced here in Spanish. It is
> urgent that the Security
> Council of the United Nations hear from as many
> people as possible. That is
> my suggested first step.
>
> Please publicize this call to action among
> Spanish readers by all
> possible means. For those of you who are mexicanos,
> if you can get La
> Jornada [a national daily published in Mexico City]
> to publish a similar
> call, that would be very effective. I don't care
> whether the ideas are
> attributed to me. I just want to get them out. If
> you did not receive
> the English original and wish a copy, let me know.
>
> Thank you very much for your efforts.
>
> Sincerely, --George
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Asunto: La Marea es Turbulenta pero Volviéndose.
> ¡Ninguna
> hoja del higo para Bush! Planeando
> Delante.
> Fecha: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:35:53 -0600,
> De: George Salzman <[log in to unmask]>
>
> Jueves, 6 de marzo de 2003,
>
> Amigos,
>
> No ha habido ninguna duda desde las
> demostraciones mundiales
> gigantescas del 15 de febrero de que las gentes del
> mundo casi
> universalmente se oponen al ataque americano
> amenazado en Irak. Pero los
> gobiernos de las naciones del mundo, todos sujeto a
> intimidar por la cábala
> de Bush y queren hacer apuestas compensatorias,
> habían sido algo menos
> unánimes. Sin embargo, dentro la última semana, se
> ha hecho claro
> evidentemente que el gobierno americano es tal
> odiado casi universalmente
> por las gentes del mundo que incluso los gobiernos
> competiendo por colocarse
> en mejor posición, respondiendo a las demandas
> populares se están moviendo
> hacia oposición a la guerra planeada contra Irak.
>
> Y ahora incluso están forzándose los medios de
> comunicación
> corporativos en los Estados Unidos que han estado
> tocando los tambores de
> guerra desde entonces 9-11, en orden de no perder su
> poca credibilitad
> dejada ante los ojos de la gente, para reconocer el
> volverse de la marea.
>
> Por un margen estrecho, el parlamento turco se
> negó a permitir
> tropas americanas para atacar Irak desde su tierra,
> un soplo mayor a los
> proyectistas de guerra. Salvo primer ministro
> británico Tony Blair, casi
> cada otro gobierno que había apoyado una guerra
> contra Irak ha hecho su
> apoyo ahora dependiente de la autorización por el
> Consejo de Seguridad de la
> ONU. Porque los gobiernos estan enfrentados con la
> clara oposición de sus
> poblaciones, quieren que la ONU provea una hoja de
> higo para la guerra
> intentada por Bush en Iraq.
>
> Los EE.UU. han estado encendiendo al calor en
> las naciones miembras
> del Consejo de Seguridad cuyas votaciones por la
> autorización no están en la
> bolsa, pero con falta notable de éxito. El lunes,
> "el jefe de la diplomacía
> estadunidense, Colin Powell . . . le dijo a Bush que
> él tiene sólo cuatro de
> los nueve votos necesarios para la aprobación de una
> segunda resolución".
> "Powell le dijo a Bush . . . La negativa de Turquía
> para permitir a las
> tropas americanas para organizarse en la frontera
> del país con Irak condenó
> cualquier oportunidad de acuerdo general en la ONU."
> El encuentro del martes
> de Powell con el ministro extranjero mexicano Luis
> Ernesto Derbez "no
> produjo resultados", dijo un portavoz de Powell. (el
> 4 de marzo, Capitol
> Hill Blue,
>
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_1870.shtml
> )
>
> " . . En un nuevo soplo, el más alto
> diplomático ruso dijo que
> Moscú puede usar su veto en contra la medida . . .
> Incluso sin un veto
> de la Rusia, China o Francia, los Estados Unidos
> todavía no tienen los
> nueve votos . . ." (el 4 de marzo, Las Vegas Sun, AP
>
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