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MEDLIB-L March 2003, Week 2

Subject:

Re: summary MDConsult advice/feedback

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Question: can someone please clarify "much of the back issue has been
removed"? Which back issues? Thanks.

We subscribe to MD Consult - it is very popular.

Barbara

Barbara L. Kuchan
Associate Director for Information Services and Educational Programs
HSC Libraries | Temple University
bkuchan@ temple.edu

-----Original Message-----
From:   Medical Libraries Discussion List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Burns, Liz
Sent:   Monday, March 03, 2003 12:54 PM
To:     [log in to unmask]
Subject:        summary MDConsult advice/feedback

Several people have asked me to post a summary of the responses I got on
MDConsult users who have considered dropping the subscription. There was a
good balance between dropping and keeping it. It appears that even though
there are some real problems with the cost and the format, the doctors like
it (perhaps due to familiarity/not wanting to leave a comfort zone) and
therefore librarians continue to subscribe.
Nancy Reynolds sent me a chart comparing the MerckMedicus holdings to the
MDConsult Core. There is a difference, but I still want to compare MDC with
other up & coming database services.

Here are the email responses:

I was really hoping that we could justify dropping our subscription when the
rates went up so much last year, but our users consistently rated the
service 'essential.' In fact, they'd like for us to add more users (although
it's rare that someone is locked out).  People love it
******
Our contract runs out today.
******
The Atlantic Health System dropped MDConsult recently.... as of the end of
January 2003.  We don't like the format... the way it prints out and they
were raising the prices... We decided to go with another database,
EMedicine.
*****
I may consider it, but my docs will have a fit!  Depends on how much they
raise the price this year.  We have already cut licenses from 5 to 2.
*****
We had the MDConsult reference desk version.  We dropped it this year since
it wasn't getting that much use, and they were dropping that version (so I
heard - I never got a renewal notice), and the price for the replacement was
going to be a lot more.
*****
We renewed for 2003; we will revisit the product review next year with
surveys, etc.
*****
We have it here, this is the second year, but as good as it is, I always
consider dropping it. There is so much competition in this area that
when it is time to renew I always take a serious look at what is out
there to compare.  It has grown in popularity over time, as you would
expect, and in fact for cost reasons we tried to go down from two
licences to one this year, but usage had improved to the point that I
got complaints that people were locked out. This seemed to be enough of
reason to the powers that be to reinstate our two license limit. The
LinkOut feature from PubMed has been a boon too I must say.

One thing I don't like is how they are now coming out with specialty
niche products; I think it weakens their overall product and people get
confused because it's all "MD Consult".

Just my $0.02.

******
We are looking into the possiblity.  I pulled stats from the last three
months and see so many former residents and physicians that are no longer
here still accessing it through our remote access.  Everyone is screaming
for UpToDate these days.  We can't afford both.
******
I had MDConsult for 1 year, paid by medical staff.  We did not renew.  It
was all about the cost per use.
******
I dropped it - found it difficult to use and the retrieval was not great
within - the search . Printing was a pain - no one liked the look of the
printed article and would turn around and ask me to order an interlibrary
loan copy of the same thing.  Full text pretty limited to W. B. Saunders
stuff and now much of the back issue has been removed.
*****
I didn't get it because the Docs can get it free by signing up at
http://Merckmedicus.com
******
Hi Liz, We use MDConsult. We are considering dropping
it. Like many hospitals, we are experiencing financial
difficulties. If we continue to offer an annual
password to every one of the doctors on our staff, it
could run into the thousands of dollars every year. In
the past when we offered passwords, not that many
doctors took us up on it, so offering the passwords
was just a nice courtesy. But interest has grown, and
I am spending more and more of my budget on MDConsult.
If we get an institutional password for everyone, that
cost would be astronomical in terms of what this
library has to work with money-wise. Those dollars
could be spent on hard copy books in the library that
all staff (not just doctors) could use. I love the
MDConsult product; it has served us well. If you could
summarize what you find out from your query and post
it to the list, that would be great because I know my
boss is trying to decide right now what to do about
MDConsult.
*******
No, my Docs and Residents love MDConsult. If I had to make cuts, MDConsult
would be one of the last services to go.
******
We had the "reference desk" version - one computer only at $2500.  When
physicians and others got free access through merckmedicus.com, we dropped
it.
******
Not here. We scraped our pennies together to purchase 2 additional site
licenses this fall because our users were using it so heavily and getting
'overuse' messages. Much better now!


Elizabeth Burns, MLS
VA Medical Center Library
4801 Linwood Blvd.
Kansas City, Mo. 64128
816-922-2315 voice
816-922-3340 fax
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