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SKIVT-L  December 2003, Week 2

SKIVT-L December 2003, Week 2

Subject:

Re: thoughts on Big Squaw Mtn. (non-VT)

From:

'Chromer <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Vermont Skiing Discussion and Snow Reports <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:18:12 -0500

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Evan Osler wrote:

> Can anyone shed some light on this place? Chromer?
>
> http://www.bigsquawmountain.com/
>
> 1750' of vertical, $25 weekend lift tickets, "one of the largest glades in
> the east", plus "backcountry".
>
> What does it all mean??? Just curious.

During most of the season that's my "home hill."  When natural
snow conditions are good, it's very good.  When they're bad, it
truly sucks.  They have had one guy going crazy cutting glades
for the past 3 or 4 summers and he is doing a fantastic job.  He
truly has single-handedly transformed that mountain.

The main downers of the place are:

1.  For most people it is in the middle of freaking nowhere.
2.  Very slow lift:  You can make 4 runs in an hour, but only if
you don't make any turns.
3.  Limited snowmaking:  Things don't really get rolling until
mid-January most years.
4.  Ultra-conservative patrol:  The PD is definitely NOT an
adventure skier.  Some things that could be opened (IMO) aren't
until late in the season.  Upper liftline, for instance, is
rarely open.  I also suspect there is some friction between the
patrol and Rich, who cuts the glades, in that they have a hard
time being able to physically close the glades and even when they
do manage to find enough rope it often doesn't get respected.
5.  There is little that is truly steep. (That is changing
though, via the glades, nothing really sustained though).
6.  "Mountain Operations" are haphazard, at best.  Like one storm
last year when the lift mechanic didn't drive up to the mountain
and fire up the chair in the middle of the night before the temps
went back below freezing, so several sheave-trains froze up and
when they started the chair they burnt out several linings and
couldn't run it again until a bunch of new ones came in and were
installed.  Which meant the entire upper-mountain with it's
12"-14" of new snow was inaccessible.  To their credit, they did
issue refund vouchers that day.  Or the time two years ago they
had a 24" overnight storm and during the night one of the guys
got the "good" groomer sideways and ran a track off it, which
closed three of their steepest trails for the day.  He buried the
groomer where they came together, worst possible place...
7.  Snowmobilers usually outnumber skiers at the bar at the end
of the day.  And then they head back out for another ride before
dinner...
8.  The "best" beers at the bar are Guinness Draught Cans and Sam
Adams.

On the upside:

1.  For most people it is in the middle of freaking nowhere.  So
it is a busy day when you can't ski directly onto the chair.
2.  Very slow lift:  If you ski the glades, you get a good long
rest between runs.
3.  The glades.  They're very well-cut and expanding every year.
  Supposedly they now comprise more acres than Sugarloaf's on-map
glades.  This year's new glade has a crazy 20 to 25 foot drop
that could be taken under the right conditions.  And it's
adjacent to the liftline, so you'll be awarded style points.  Or
not...
4.  The "glades we don't describe the location of."  'Nuff said.
  I very rarely see a track that I didn't put there.
5.  Limited snowmaking.  On most trails you'll be skiing natural
and the snowmaking doesn't overspray into the good woods.  One of
the main water or air lines (not sure which) has a giant tear in
it where it may have been caught by a groomer blade a couple
years ago, so no snowmaking any more on the trails on the
upper-right of the trail map.  As of this September the line
still hadn't been repaired.
6.  Amazing views of Katahdin, the Barren-Chairback range, Kineo,
and Moosehead Lake.
7.  The ultra-conservative patrol reserves the good snow for you.
  Just don't get caught leaving the trail.  I haven't had a
ticket pulled yet, but I've had a stern talking-to about "setting
a bad example for the kids."
8.  The price is certainly right.
9.  The place is absolutely crawling with kids.  The future of
Maine skiing appears to be alive and well.

I haven't tried the backcountry route yet.  Maybe this year.
Supposedly it drops off into the next drainage of the mountain
and eventually comes back to one of the parking lots.  Take a
wrong turn though, and there is truly nothing but snowmobile
trails and logging roads for 100 miles.

So, it's definitely worth a late-winter trip.  Mid-March is
probably best.  And despite the small size I've been exploring
it's woods for three years and am still discovering new lines
almost every time I go there.

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