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SCIENCE-FOR-THE-PEOPLE  September 2005

SCIENCE-FOR-THE-PEOPLE September 2005

Subject:

point of discussion

From:

Laura Kamienski <[log in to unmask]>

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Science for the People Discussion List <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Sun, 11 Sep 2005 04:34:31 -0400

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Tadit,

There are many reasons why the SWP decided to consolidate its branches. Any SWP
member would be happy to discuss them. One may also review books and documents
detailing party discussions and history. However, I do not believe this is the
appropriate forum to discuss the history of the SWP or any organization when an
article is posted. (If I thought it were, and had the time to waste, I might
have made a long critical post on the WSWS) If you are interested in a
discussion about SWP history and activity a more appropriate venue would the
open meeting scheduled at NYU for later today. (information below)

Louis' post was hardly an invitation for discussion and was clearly
bait. I was under the impression that the discussion was about the current
conditions in the gulf region, not of list members' distorted opinions of the
SWP. This will be my last post on the topic of the SWP. But I will nibble at
your line a bit and say that in my long time (more than 20 years) experience
with the SWP, especially in comparison with other orgainizations and people
(especially on listserves) claiming to be progressive, I have become
increasingly convinced that they are the only existing organization capable of
leading a socialist revolution. Their analysis is always spot on. Their
dedication and discipline unmatched. Their strategy and tactics sound. Further,
I believe many people (yourself included) confuse discipline, strategy, and
principle for dogma. I invite and encourage any list member interested in the
SWP to contact them directly and find out for herself. Branch listings at
http://themilitant.com/direct.shtml .

09-11 Meeting:

Four Years Later:

Resisting U.S. Rulers' Global Assault on Workers and Farmers

New York City ?   Sunday  ?   September 11, 2005

Reception: 1pm ? program: 2pm ? Refreshments afterwards

NYU Law School, Tishman Auditorium, 40 Washington Square South

Sponsored by the Socialist Workers Party National Committee and Young Socialists

for transportation information in Philadelphia:

215-455-2682 ? [log in to unmask]



          Organizing and using union power:

- Strengthening UMWA District 22: two-year miners' battle to organize Local 9957
advances at Co-Op mine in Utah

- Showdown looms between UMWA and Peabody Coal over mine-closing threat on
Navajo Nation

- New blows dealt to mine bosses in Salt Lake City courtroom

- UFCW Local 789 in St. Paul takes on company denial of socialist candidate's
leave to campaign for office

- "Red shirts" reappear in UNITE-organized Point Blank Armor plant in Florida

          Is Military option "on the table" against Iran? Or not? Conflicts
intensify between Washington, Berlin, Paris, and London

          The IRA's stand-down in Ireland and accelerating crisis in Northern
Ireland

Defending space for working-class politics: pushing back "loyalty oath" in
Pittsburgh, campaign disclosure in Seattle

  Speakers include

Jack Barnes national secretary of the Socialist Workers Party

Jacob Perasso Socialist Workers Party candidate for mayor of St. Paul, member of
UFCW Local 789; recently returned from Caracas world youth festival

Member of UNITE-HERE Local 25-70 at Point Blank in Florida

Participants in World Festival of Youth and Students in Caracas

Mary-Alice Waters president, Pathfinder Press; just returned from research trip
to Cuba

Alyson Kennedy and Bill Estrada members of UMWA Local-9957-in-becoming at Co-Op
mine in Utah and defendants in coal bosses' retaliatory suit

Dennis Richter organizer of SWP trade union work

Dave Prince on taking advantage of expanding political opportunities

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