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Richard Levins <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:10:23 -0500
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So as not to erase history, let's not leave out of our discussions and 
collective memory the Ban the Bomb movements, the Stockholm appeal,the 
warnings about inevitable proliferation, the efforts to keep nuclear energy 
under UN control. As in the discussions of the Vietnam-American war, the 
Iraq-American wars,  and pending wars, the media and pundits will 
rediscover our arguments and use them as their own.... Dick



At 07:18 AM 10/31/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>It appears that the deciding historical event for the neocons, many 
>Israelis and some Jews is WWII and the Holocaust. That is understandable 
>given the emotional closeness to ones own relatives, religion, etc.
>
>For many others the most important recent historical event is the ending 
>of the cold war.  However I do not believe we have really understood this 
>(the Cold War ending).  In societies that are focused on quarterly 
>profits, thinking in decades is a stretch.
>
>The implication of this is in how we react to a nuclear armed Iran.  The 
>neocon reaction would be to bomb.  Another reaction would be to consider 
>waiting out the regime for a century.  Since the balance of power in the 
>world is slowly shifting for the West to the rest, from Israel to the 
>rest, it will take almost a faith in humanity if not economics, to trust 
>the whole world not to make the mistake we came so close to making.  This 
>is especially true of the middle east where rationality is scarce (both sides).
>
>Dan Adkins
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael H Goldhaber [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 11:29 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Israel's secret uranium bomb
>
>Meaner and stupider than the US government? the French government? the 
>Russian government? the Sudanese government? the Chinese government?
>the Saudi government? the Pakistani government? the Mexican government? 
>the Serbian government? the Iranian government?
>
>I could go on, but you get my point.
>
>I think this is slightly veiled anti-semitism. If not, how can you justify 
>it? Why single out this particular government, for all its despicable 
>actions, to be especially mean and stupid in comparison with so many 
>despicable governments?
>
>
>Best,
>
>Michael
>
>On Oct 30, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Jonathan Campbell wrote:
>
>>Very stupid, mean people. What else to you expect of the Israeli government?

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