Let me add another. Over my tenure of 12+ years here as Tech
Coordinator, I can think of four desktops and one printer that took an
unauthorized walk out the door (stolen) to never return. The count on
purloined laptops is around 13, with a few more unaccounted for.
On Feb 2, 2007, at 8:41 PM, Eric Hall wrote:
> Contrary to Ray's experience we are finding that the portable labs are
> used MORE than many of our desktops. Clearly the lifespan of a
> notebook is
> lower for a variety of reasons, but we have not found that they
> require any
> more support time. We are on year 4 with a dozen Compaq Evo notebooks -
> first year without warranties. Both Compaq and HP "business class"
> come with 3-year warranty, and we chipped in a little bit for
> damage. Body count on 14 machines for the duration of the warranty
> was 1 motherboard, 1 trackpad and 2 HD, which were replaced/repaired
> immediately. No accidents (knock knock). In my mind a low-cost warranty
> spread over a 3-year payment is worthwhile if only to get prompt
> service and
> repair parts. For us it would be hard to pay for unexpected expensive
> repairs (motherboard, LCD, etc.) and I don't want machines out of
> circulation waiting for parts or $$ to buy them.
> As for batteries, we are just now starting to replace them after 3
> years -
> they get replaced when they can no longer last for two class periods
> min). Many still have 75% of original battery life (which was about 4
> hours), but some of those were sitting on desks constantly plugged in
> the first couple of years and it took a year or more before the cart
> got heavily used. I have purchased Total Micro batteries through CDWG,
> they are OEM (HP branded) at a good price. So far so good, and also
> service direct from the manufacturer (we had one DOA).
> One thing we have done is to make sure that batteries are properly
> "conditioned" when we get them and occasionally during the year.
> want to take a shot at whether or not this really makes a difference?
> Eric Hall
> Technology Coordinator
> Waterbury/Duxbury Schools
> Washington West Supervisory Union
> Waterbury, VT
> (802) 244-6100
>> Your mail has been scanned by InterScan VirusWall.
>> been out sick, here are some grouped replies
>> I am not sure that 'cart' laptop are necessarily more work than
>> And I would never question the #s that Tommy has rolled on costs
>> (Tom, just
>> support costs or total everything costs?) but here are some thoughts
>> They to tend to be slower, and locked up (slow to get to) but they
>> also tend
>> to be used less. I think there is a correlation between volume of use
>> failure (software or hardware) so, given that laptops are used less,
>> I have
>> seen that they break down less, and otherwise have less maintenance.
>> I have
>> also on occasion been able to take a laptop with me to work on (on
>> project, home, into a meeting) not so easy with a 50# tower. The
>> laptops are
>> generally also treated better, and have better supervision, so kids
>> try and
>> destroy them less.
>> I can fit a laptop cart in my office, I can then work on all 16 of
>> them in
>> space. Having them all in proximity saves time with maintenance. I
>> would not
>> try to stuff 16 desktops in here!
>> Another way I have saved time it to drag the laptops to a standalone
>> While the standalones are rebooting or scanning, etc. Boot up the
>> Helps soak up some of that idle time.
>> We have gateways that are 5 years old, some HPs that are 4 and 3.
>> Each of
>> them still get 95% of their original battery life.
>> Battery on my 1 year old bottom of the line dell laptop is maybe 66%
>> original runtime.
>> Extended warranties are useless unless you need them. Catch 22, so we
>> them and hope to avoid the lemons.
>> We have had 2 laptops dropped from waist height and survive 100%. No
>> known/reported issues here ...
>>> lifespan vs. flexibility
>> laptops are by their nature compromised machines and will not last as
>> long as
>> a same cost desktop. Slower proc. less RAM to start with.
>> Some of our teachers LOVE taking their laptops home, others leave them
>> chained to their desk, batteries out for months at a time ...
>> I love our wireless printer ...
>> 200 computers 400 students 80 faculty k-12, k6 sixteen laptop cart,
>> fourteen laptop cart.
>> 1 FTE me, official title is tech & integration support. 30% of my
>> time is
>> earmarked for integration. I do servers, desktops, firewall,
>> filtering, email
>> virus/spam, buyer, hoarder/disposer of junk, dealer of ink. Heavy on
>> more-with-less lately and a choking dose of find a cheaper solution
>> Hope all are well.
Tommy J. Walz
Barre Supervisory Union