Patho-physiological and social explanations are not incompatible. An epidemic needs pathogens, vunerability ofpopulations, means of spread. The parameters of epidemics come a from a broader context, which may indeed be the political economy of bee keeping or environmental change including habitats for bees and their nutrition.This is a worthwhile hypothesis to offset the molecular reductionism that is so prevalent. So if recent developments in (capitalist) societies do create the context, the pathways should be traced out.There is no need for sneers when somebody focuses on a different link in the causal chain from our own favorite one. Dick
>>> "José F. Morales" <[log in to unmask]> 4/28/2007 8:13 AM >>>
Your warning that the ASL will relate the bee
thing to capitalism is classic....ideology leads
facts, not facts lead ideology. Maybe a simple
formula, probably too simple, but it works a lot.
It was similar in the discussion we had about
causes of cancer in our society. Must be
pollution caused by capitalists! That its
complicated and that the phenom may even in part
be a by product of mutation load from oxygen
metabolism is not even probably known by the ASL.
What gets me on this list is the observation of
how intransigent they are in the face of data.
Well, must be a peculiar cognitive phenom in
humans with religion, politics etc.
>While Jonathan et al may or may not turn out to
>be right in their suspicions about the cause of
>this, let's remember that insisting on a
>capitalist-related cause in the face of little
>real data can compromise the credibility of
>progressives if it turns out to be wrong.
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>Subject: SF Chron, LA Times, others: More buzz on 'colony collapse disorder'
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>The mystery of the missing honeybees is taking
>on the look of a classic process story.
>Out of the pack of possible causes mentioned in
>Alexei Barrionuevo's generalized description in
>Tuesday's NY Science Times, the fungus angle is
>making a bid.
>Sabin Russell in the San Francisco Chronicle and
>Chong and Thomas H. Maugh II in the LA Times
>give UC San Francisco researchers an edge.
>Biochemist Joe DeRisi gets a bit of the hometown
>treatment from Russell, who describes him as the
>person "who found the SARS virus in 2003Åç and
>won a MacArthur "genius grant" for his effort.
>Material in bees from a collapsed colony in
>California's central valley contain genes from a
>fungus parasite, Nosema ceranae, that can wipe
>out hives, DeRisi says, although he is not
>claiming to have found the cause for the
>widespread disappearance of the pollinators
>across the continent. The LA Times offers a more
>complete look at the doubts raised by other
>experts, including this from Penn State
>entomologist Diana Cox-Foster: "By itself, it is
>probably not the culprit Š but it may be one of
>the key players." The story has a kind of
>ruminating feel to it, and clearly there is more
>to be written. For readers who like their
>science short and dec! larative and
>peer-reviewed, this on-going glimpse into
>science in action may not be so rewarding.
>quoting the Chinese language United Daily News
>and Taiwan televison, reports a massive loss of
>bees in Taiwan. And AP's
>Godvin reports the appearance of a mite that
>decimated mainland bees a few years ago has
>appeared for the first time in Hawaii.
>Grist for the Mill: UCSF
>John Cox Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:37:45 +0000
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