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Mitchel Cohen <[log in to unmask]>
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If we are going to hold a SftP meeting in Cuba, I 
suggest that we link up with the bi-annual 
conferences the radical philosophy association 
sponsors in Havana at the beginning of June, and 
set up various science and philosophy workshops 
within it .... Contact Cliff Durand to help set this up ....
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Also, we can certainly do something like this in 
San Miguel de Allende, Mexico, with the Center 
for Global Justice, which is sponsoring a 
conference there in July 2008. (I've been to the 
conferences there for the past 3 years (none this 
year), and I am certain that SftP would be a 
welcome addition.) See 
www.GlobalJusticeCenter.org  Cliff DuRand also 
lives in San Miguel and works with this center 
.... In the past, we've had very intense 
discussions about all aspects of water in Mexico, 
and also genetic engineering of agriculture.

Mitchel


At 05:06 PM 7/1/2007, you wrote:
>George:
>
>Couple of things.
>
>    * You got it right in your prior email 
> (segment below) that I am the person who 
> suggested organizing a SftP meeting.  I have my 
> hopes that a meeting with a radial science 
> focus would get a better reception now, 
> especially with younger scientists, although I 
> have no concrete evidence for this.  (Both 
> Balter and Campbell showed interest in the idea off list.)
>
>        Either:
>
>        a. A national meeting called by some of 
> the people on this list after discussing the focus, agenda, speakers, etc., or
>
>        b. a symposium at a AAAS meeting (Balter 
> suggested this meeting to me off list).  Have 
> no idea how to get a symposium accepted by 
> AAAS, I have only organized symposia at 
> meetings of chemists.  The next AAAS meeting is 
> in Boston on Feb 14-18,2008.  Their home 
> page: 
> <http://www.aaas.org/meetings/>http://www.aaas.org/meetings/ 
> has a link on the left side for information 
> about the program, which does not look like it 
> is fixed yet.  The theme for the meeting is:
>
>“The theme for the 2008 Annual Meeting­"Science 
>and Technology from a Global 
>Perspective"­emphasizes the power of science and 
>technology as well as education to assist 
>less-developed segments of the world society, to 
>improve partnerships among already-developed 
>countries, and to spur knowledge-driven 
>transformations across a host of fields. The 
>program will also emphasize ground-breaking 
>areas of research, new and exciting 
>developments, and cross-cutting activities in 
>support of science, technology, and education around the world.”
>
>Sounds almost Disney like.  “Its a small world 
>after all....”  Kind of theme that is ripe for a 
>radical critique.  “Science in the service of 
>capitalism” or “Science for people not 
>profits.”   Not hard to be provocative.  Harder to be effective.
>
>
>     2.  But, I have never been to Cuba or Haiti 
> and I would love to go.  In fact, the way my work life is going lately, I would
>         rather go to Cuba or Haiti.  Less 
> complicated to organize and plan in some ways 
> (I think).  Couple of weeks sounds great.
>
>I think a formal proposal needs to be made to 
>the list and see how people respond.
>
>Larry Romsted
>
>P.S.  Shortly after Balter is brought back to 
>the list, I think all the people who dropped 
>because of list problems should be invited 
>back.  Perhaps they can be encouraged by the 
>idea of the list members doing something, i.e., 
>1 and/or 2 above.  I will help with this.
>
>On 7/1/07 11:35 AM, "George Salzman" <[log in to unmask]> wrote [in part]:
>
><The idea came from some correspondence in the 
>last couple of days and from Dick Levins’ post 
>today about Cuba and the control of information. 
>Maybe instead of organizing a conference, as 
>Larry Romsted (I think it was) suggested, it 
>would be a more catalyzing action for SftP to 
>organize a delegation to visit Cuba and Haiti.>
>

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