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Re: VCR

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"Warner, Erik" <[log in to unmask]>

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UVM Flownet <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 6 Aug 2007 07:08:02 -0700

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HeartLab is great for doing easy reporting.  However, if you have studies that are complicated the reporting package is tedious.

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From: UVM Flownet on behalf of Norma Bourne
Sent: Fri 8/3/2007 1:59 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: VCR



We are "supposed" to be getting something called Heartlab.  I understand our sister hospital already uses it for echo, and the programs are available for the Vascular side, ready to popluate into the system with numbers and all the report-building stuff, but everyone is unprepared to actually DO that conversion, b/c we have ordered all our equip and upgrades without transmission capablities/dicom ports, etc, because we have always used the VCR.  So now we have to bring all our biggest, most expensive machines online with full wireless capabilities and that takes some technical finesse and a lot of $$$!  Our echo at Baptist uses Xcelera now, we in Vasc use Atrium, which has been marked "end of life" by the company that now owns the rights to Atrium.  Anyway, eventually, Heartlab is supposed to do it all for us, and yes it does run thru PACS, and down time is hell, and the learning curve, I understand for tech and docs, can be long and LOW.  The upside is, the techs build the !
 reports and will have more influence on making sure %ages are included and appropriate, that all measurements are noted correctly.  The docs will read, change, annotate, and sign electronically. 

Norma, RVT

>>> "Cyndi Lufkin" <[log in to unmask]> 08/03/07 2:59 PM >>>
I hear that, I have used Siemens CWS3000 and Philips Excelera and it seems the vascular community is always an afterthought. 


----- Original Message ----
From: rtpierce <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 6:06:30 PM
Subject: Re: VCR


We have the Philips product "Xcelera" pacs for writing our reports, and
Philips u/s machines....It has really bugged me how the echo techs in our
office, even 5 years ago, have always been able to transfer over their
measurements from the u/s machine into the report on the software....whereas
my vascular studies don't transfer over ANY  measurements into the report...
Is anyone from Philips out there?  When will the vascular reports have this
ability to have the measurements populate into the reports? For the last 2
years they have been telling me "... you'll have that on the next software
revision..."

Is this true for any of the pacs out there?  Does anyone have a pacs
software that populates vascular measurements off the u/s machine and into
the reports? ( I'm not referring to the  "image" of the report page on the
u/s machine )
This is just not conducive to improving work flow in the vascular lab, which
we all need to do more than ever these days!!!

Thanks for letting me vent.

P.S.  I too miss hearing the Doppler on my studies when I review them off
the pacs. You can get sooo much information just from the SOUND.
Sadly, the reality is that once the reading docs get used to being able to
triple the amount of studies they can interpret in the same amount of time,
by just pressing keys on the keyboard, they are not likely to go back to the
VCR method.

Roger Pierce, BS RVT
Technical Director and Vascular Supervisor
Vascular Lab
Mecklenburg Medical Group
Charlotte, NC  28277



-----Original Message-----
From: UVM Flownet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Norma Bourne
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 1:38 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: VCR

You have got a big AMEN on that one, TJ.  It is just beyond me that I can
watch a video with picture and sound on youtube all day long and my ONE
machine that is all-digital has to have its images opened  ONLY by a dicom
reader, and if we want to transmit the data into another management system
it has to be in this format because of the system radiology has.  The
technology to make this happen has been around a while.  I wonder what the
hold-up is?  Sadly, the first system to integrate sound will probably price
itself well out of budgetary reach of many of us.  I know my Med Director is
not alone when he says that an imaging procedure should be presented with
sound or it is incomplete.
Norma, RVT

>>> "Terry Zwakenberg" <[log in to unmask]> 8/1/2007 7:36 AM >>>
give me a video tape with voice over any day and i will generate more
studies with better transfer of information to the interp physician. with
tape and a mic i can let them know exactly where i am, something that is
very difficult to do with annotation and stills or even loops.  that said
almost every thing i do now days is digital.  i for one miss video tapes,
but not the storage or image degradation issues.  maybe one day we will get
the best of both worlds.

Terry J Zwakenberg BS RVT RDCS
Houston, TX

On 7/31/07, Denise Levy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> HI, We find that our exams are much longer achieving with the PACS than
> video tape. I have attempted to sell my doctors on the cine loops and
failed
> because it took too long for them to read it. I stacked the images for
them
> and most want still images. I am going to get the GE DVD recorder and then
> we can shorten our studies. Gone are the quick 12 mins DVT leg scans.
> Annotation, annotation and I welcome a change. Anyone else having the same
> problem? Thanks, Denise Levy, RVT
>
> On 7/31/07, Lael Henry <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >  Hello,
> >
> > After 18 years of taping, can I tell you how liberating it is not to
> > worry about all that now.  I recently have gone to a lab with a PACS
system
> > and I love it.  Quality, time, efficiency etc.  My Philips does have
video
> > clip ability and therefore that can be reviewed by PACS as well;
however, as
> > previously mentioned I don't really think the docs care about it.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Lael Henry, RVT, RDMS
> >
> > --
> > Lael Henry, RVT, RDMS
> > Technical Director
> > Vascular Laboratory
> > Montgomery General Hospital
> > (301) 570-8500 ext. 2298
> > (301) 774-8943 fax
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
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