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SKIVT-L  September 2008, Week 2

SKIVT-L September 2008, Week 2

Subject:

Re: Communists&RepublicansUnite!VT-L

From:

Dana Dorsett <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Vermont Skiing Discussion and Snow Reports <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 9 Sep 2008 15:36:10 -0400

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Leigh Daboll [[log in to unmask]] wrote:

>What Patrick has overlooked here is the fact that the US military is
hands-
>down the greatest trickle-down industrial/consumer/biological R&D
program
>ever created in man's history.

Uh, dude- it's obvious you've never seen the inside of a military R & D
program! 
 
>There is very little call (or need) within the US for tax-funded R&D.
Not
>so in Canada and Europe.  We spend a lot of time up here decrying the
lack
>of governement assisted scientific funding and subsequent lack of
>manufacturing/innovative enterprise.

There's PLENTY of (needed or not) tax funded R & D going on in the US,
are you kidding?  (NIH funds the bulk of biology research in the US, not
the military, not the private sector.  "More people making a living off
of cancer than dying of it.", to be sure)
 
>Simply put, there are some very significant national economic spinoffs
to
>being the policeman of the free world that don't show up in the
military's
>budget figures

The budget figures?  I could go on...

OK, I will.  A little bit...

Of the dozen or so military projects I've worked on or seen close up in
my career I gotta say much military R & D is the most wasteful pit of
pork spending I could ever conceive of.  I've heard career engineering
managers say out loud and with a straight face that a project was
"successful" because they managed to spend the entire budget (without
finishing the project) and get it extended (multiple times.)  The
typical military-contractor style of project management is designed to
produce merely adequate results using mediocre engineers, budget &
schedule be damned.  Even with the best & brightest people working on
it, the managers find a way to keep from doing the right thing when
fundamental problems & issues are discovered.  For example, I've seen
managers burn up half a million bucks in rad-hard programmable parts
'cuz the GANTT chart said they needed to be programmed on a particular
date, despite the fact there were known bugs in the design that needed
to be worked on, with a 2 year wait for the next chance to buy the parts
from the foundry!  (File this under, "How to turn a $3megabuck 1 year
project into a 5 year $25 megabuck project without producing a single
functional prototype.")

And that was just the tiniest tip of a snowflake on the tip a sinking
program that should have been scuttled at least a decade prior.

The KEWLEST and highest-tech military projects I've worked on have all
been trickle-UP, where technologies developed in the commercial private
sector were adapted for military uses.  The Pentagon figured this out a
couple dozen years ago when all sorts of commercial systems were cheaper
& better functioning than military-program systems, spawning the COTS
(Commercial Off The Shelf) program to keep from falling TOO far behind.

It's trickle UP, not trickle down.  President Ike warned us, but it was
already out of hand...

dana
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