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Re: Chat: Duke Magazine - reference librarians in the age of google

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Susan Fowler <[log in to unmask]>

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Susan Fowler <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:58:09 -0500

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I would argue that Google is not the enemy or the competition. Google is
just another tool in the battery of reference resources and its biggest plus
is also its biggest minus - the simple search interface. When I need to
tickle my brain for a simple fact or idea, when I need to answer a ready
reference question, I go to Google. When I need to do a complex search, I go
elsewhere.

The proliferation of digitally accessible information reveals that society's
knowledge as a whole is expanding, leaving us time to develop more
complicated questions. This is not new news. A study done in 1992 showed
that while librarians receive fewer questions, the questions they do get are
more complex and take more time to research and answer.

Shipman, Barbara Lowther, Schwartz, Diane G., and Dow, Sandra C. (1992).
End-user searching and new roles for librarians. Medical Reference Services
Quarterly, 11, (3), 1-16.  

Sales industries know that you get more sales when you get out there and
make direct contact with your clients. I think that by reaching out to
patrons, we have the potential to get more business than ever before from
people who may have otherwise been too shy or would have never thought to
ask in the first place. 

Susan Fowler, MLIS
410-955-1306
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"The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own ignorance."
Benjamin Franklin


-----Original Message-----
From: Heyd, Mike [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: Chat: Duke Magazine - reference librarians in the age of google

Donna's anecdote is indeed sobering, and I might do just what she did.  Yet,
I submit that the doctors aren't the enemy here- Google is the enemy, or at
least the competition.  Doctors are like flowing water- they will take the
route with the fewest obstacles, and it makes sense that they do so.

I am a big Google fan, but we should be asking ourselves, "Am I as easy to
access as Google?  Am I as quick as Google?  Are my results as good as
Google's?

If we are to survive and thrive, we have to do what Google does, but do it
better.  Or, we must appropriate Google for our own purposes and add our
value to it.  All very challenging, I admit.

My two cents for Friday.

Mike

Michael Heyd, AHIP
Director, Medical Library
Susquehanna Health
777 Rural Avenue
Williamsport, PA  17701

Telephone:  (570) 321-2266
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-----Original Message-----
From: Medical Libraries Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Donna Beales
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:57 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: FW: Chat: Duke Magazine - reference librarians in the age of google

And an anecdotal story.  I was in Boston recently consulting with a
neurosurgion.  As I couldn't remember which of my colleagues worked at what
medical center, I asked him off the cuff, "Who's your librarian?"  His
answer: "Google.  Google is my librarian."

Needless to say, I chose another neurosurgeon.

Have a great weekend, all.


Donna Beales, MLIS
Lowell General Hospital
Health Science Library
295 Varnum Ave.
Lowell, MA 01854
Email: dbeales AT lowellgeneral.org
www.lowellgeneral.org/library
Tel. 978-937-6247
Fax 978-937-6855



-----Original Message-----
From: Vonville, Helena M [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: Chat: Duke Magazine - reference librarians in the age of google


To quote from the article:

"In a public debate before an audience made up almost entirely of reference
librarians, Bell argued for the abolition of the reference desk by the year
2012.....


In its place, he and others envision a world, not so far off, where
librarians are available 24/7 to apply their finely honed research skills
and knowledge of information systems to helping patrons search the vast
digital stacks of the Internet, as well as the brittle pages of old
newspapers and musty shelves stocked with incunabula."

I don't know about you, but this is pretty much what I'm already doing!  My
library doesn't have a reference desk. We're too small to do 24/7 reference
assistance but I will check up on students who are working on their quals
over the weekend.

I'm planning on a major reduction in my reference collection as soon as my
(only) tech services librarian lets me know he has time to process the
materials I want to withdraw or move to the circulating books stacks.

Not having a reference desk has worked for us all these years because this
is a small facility.  I find most questions come in through e-mail; others
occur as I wander through the library and talk with the students who are
looking things up.  The nosier I get, the more questions there are!

Helena

Helena M. VonVille, MLS, MPH
Library Director
University of Texas School of Public Health
Houston, TX
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713-500-9131
713-500-9125 (fax)

-----Original Message-----
From: Medical Libraries Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Patti Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:18 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Chat: Duke Magazine - reference librarians in the age of google




http://www.dukemagazine.duke.edu/dukemag/issues/091008/brave1.html



Volume 94, No.5, September-October 2008



Brave New World

By Jacob Dragger





Reference librarians in the age of Google





Patricia Reynolds, MLIS

Director, Bishopric Medical Library

Sarasota Memorial Hospital
1700 S. Tamiami Trail

Sarasota, FL 34239

941-917-1730

941-917-1646-fax

Bishopric Medical Library
<http://www.smh.com/sections/services-procedures/medlib/external_db/medl
ib_ext_db_phys.html>




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