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SCIENCE-FOR-THE-PEOPLE December 2008

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Re: Cuba: Free Dissidents Now

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mart <[log in to unmask]>

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Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:05:01 -0800

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i actually think tis a waste of time to do 'field biology' and just do special pleading on one particular cause, whether cxuba, palestine, congo, burma, usa etc.  each group toots its own horn.  'pox on their houses' is somnetimes my view.   its also not all that productive, and so0mteims just seems to be an industry of spcial pleading, poverty pimping, etc.


--- On Sat, 12/13/08, Michael Balter <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Michael Balter <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Cuba: Free Dissidents Now
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 7:25 AM
> Translation: Don't ever criticize anything that goes on
> in a "socialist"
> country unless in same breath you condemn U.S. imperialism
> and all other
> injustices in the world committed by right-wing
> governments.This is the same
> game that the anti-Communist right always used to play,
> except in reverse,
> when people on the left would criticize right-wing
> governments--"what about
> Russia, what about China."
> 
> It's dishonest when the right does it, and it's
> dishonest when the left does
> it. It's a way of changing the subject. The Cuban
> government is repressive
> against anyone who dissents, "sometimes in ugly
> ways" as George says.
> 
> MB
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Michael Butter
> <[log in to unmask]
> > wrote:
> 
> >  One of the main problems in Cuba is that its
> doctrinal system doesn't
> > adequately control the minds of people.  The education
> and the propaganda
> > through the media simply leave too much space for free
> thought.
> >  Consequently, people's ideas sometimes lead them
> into conflict with the
> > prevailing ideology. The government then responds,
> sometimes in ugly ways.
> > The situation in the US is much smoother.  The
> doctrinal system is more
> > efficient and the limits of permissible opinion are
> set successfully by the
> > educational system and the media. Conflicts over the
> nature of the system
> > rarely arise.  But even in the US, when thought
> becomes too free, the state
> > reacts in repressive and sometimes violent ways. 
> Those who were paying
> > attention could have noticed that the Independent
> Media Center in
> > Washington, DC where I live was shut down by the
> government during the
> > protests against the IMF several years back. The irony
> was that a similar
> > thing happened about the same time in Serbia during
> anti-government
> > demonstrations.  The New York Times, the Wasthington
> Post and other
> > loudspeakers of the mainstream doctrine condemned the
> Serbian government,
> > but didn't even report that the very same thing
> happened in the belly of the
> > beast.  Michael is like the journalists at the New
> York Times. He harps
> > endlessly about the sins of others, but remains blind
> to his own blindness
> > of the sins of his own state.  If he would spend as
> much time being active
> > on the things that he can change, here in the US, the
> world, including Cuba,
> > would be a much better place.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From Human Rights Watch. These kinds of reports,
> like the one about the
> > blogger, consistently report brutal treatment of
> dissidents by Cuban police.
> > That should be a concern for all progressives about
> what kind of government
> > we are dealing with.
> >
> >
> http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2008/12/11/cuba-free-dissidents-now
> >
> > Cuba: Free Dissidents Now
> > Government Marks Human Rights Day with
> RepressionDecember 11, 2008
> > (Washington, DC, December 11, 2008) [WINDOWS-1252?]–
> The Cuban government
> > should immediately and unconditionally free the
> dissidents who have been
> > arbitrarily detained in recent days, Human Rights
> Watch said today.
> > The Cuban government arrested more than 30 people in
> the days leading up to
> > International Human Rights Day, according to press
> accounts and Cuban human
> > rights groups. Many were reportedly arrested as they
> tried to travel to
> > Havana to participate in marches and other activities
> planned for December
> > 10, the 60th anniversary of the signing of the
> Universal Declaration of
> > Human Rights.
> > "This latest crackdown is further evidence that,
> despite the handoff of
> > power from Fidel to Raul Castro, the Cuban government
> still refuses to
> > tolerate even the most basic assertion of human
> rights," said José Miguel
> > Vivanco, Americas director at Human Rights Watch.
> > Belinda Salas, president of the Latin American
> Federation of Rural Women
> > (FLAMUR) [WINDOWS-1252?]– a Cuban organization
> [WINDOWS-1252?]– said she was
> > with three other dissidents on December 9 when eight
> security officers
> > assaulted them, with no warning. Her husband, Lazaro
> Alonso, a former
> > political prisoner, was hit repeatedly in the groin
> and beaten in the face
> > and head until he was unconscious. Officers tore
> Salas's shirt from her body
> > and fractured her hand in the assault. Salas was not
> arrested, but her
> > husband and two others were detained by security
> forces.
> > Other dissidents were reportedly visited by state
> security agents and given
> > verbal warnings in advance of International Human
> Rights Day that they would
> > suffer beatings, imprisonment, or other punishments if
> they took part in any
> > of the planned activities. Some of the detainees have
> since been released,
> > though the current number of those arrested in the
> last few days and where
> > they are being held remain unknown.
> > The Cuban government continues to restrict nearly all
> avenues of political
> > dissent, strictly limiting freedom of expression,
> association, assembly,
> > movement, and the press. Cuba's laws and
> state-controlled institutions
> > provide the foundation for these violations of basic
> rights, and criminal
> > prosecutions, detentions, harassment, and surveillance
> are commonly used to
> > repress opposition. In addition to dissidents arrested
> in the last several
> > days, more than 200 people are incarcerated in Cuba
> for political reasons.
> > Over the past several years, the government has
> cracked down on the
> > activities of rights activists and independent
> journalists marking
> > anniversaries of the Universal Declaration of Human
> Rights.
> > "This has become a pattern: the government of
> Cuba commemorates the
> > Universal Declaration of Human Rights by violating its
> fundamental
> > principles," said Vivanco.
> > Also available in:
> >
> >    -
> Español<http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2008/12/11/cuba-debe-liberar-los-disidentes-inmediatamente>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ******************************************
> > Michael Balter
> > Contributing Correspondent, Science
> > Adjunct Professor of Journalism,
> > Boston University
> >
> > Email:          
> [log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">https://webmail.curie.fr/cgi-bin/openwebmail//cgi-bin/openwebmail/openwebmail-send.pl?sessionid=alex.dajkovic*curie.fr-session-0.783116287642287&folder=INBOX&page=1&sort=date_rev&msgdatetype=sentdate&keyword=&searchtype=subject&action=composemessage&message_id=%3C68766cc0812121647s561dd3aaj9cea7f44b9f78281%40mail.gmail.com%3E&compose_caller=read&[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > Website:       michaelbalter.com
> > Balter's Blog: michael-balter.blogspot.com
> > ******************************************
> >
> >
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> ******************************************
> Michael Balter
> Contributing Correspondent, Science
> Adjunct Professor of Journalism,
> Boston University
> 
> Email:           [log in to unmask]
> 
> Website:       michaelbalter.com
> Balter's Blog: michael-balter.blogspot.com
> ******************************************


      

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