I agree w/ Bob Ogden that it would be helpful for posters to indicate
why they post a particular item. Certainly it would be foolish to
insulate ourselves from right wing activities and viewpoints, since one
must know the enemy to be able to successfully combat it.
I also recognize, as i believe most on this list do, that the left is
not homogeneous. Therefore we should not discourage respectful
discourse about important differences. The not-yet-resolved struggles
over political correctness may be one of these. Coercion on the left is
still coercion; and permitting insulting and degrading commentary is
misguided liberalism. Where the line between these is certainly open to
Robert David Ogden wrote:
> I do not think the posting should be denied because the source is
> right-wing or even evil; the Left hand needs to know what the Right
> hand doeth.
> I do think Robt should preface his post with a note of his own as to
> the reason for sharing this (as you did, Michael, when you posted the
> nuke weapons article from a right-wing think tank (tho not so evil as
> Based on his past statements and what he bold-faced, he has concerns
> about a weakening of academic freedom, some of it because of what he
> perceives as some sort of ideological hold of sinister feminist Post
> Moderns, or something.
> The issue of academic freedom could be a question of general interest
> on this list; it is certainly relevant to science and society. Does
> ideological rigidity, even from a feminist or socialist perspective,
> actually inhibit freedom of thought? Even if so, how does that compare
> with the restrictions on direction of research as occurred during the
> USA administrations between Reagen and George W. As before science
> depts begged at the door hat in hand to the DOD, now they direct
> grants to appear to serve DHS as well.
> Or is academic freedom a mere bourgeois value?
> But don't just dump articles as if the intent is self-explanatory.
> Posted articles should be a resource, not the self-evident basis for
> discussion. I think the posters should at least let us know what issue
> they'd like to explore.
> Greetings to all,
> Bob Ogden
> --- On *Mon, 6/1/09, Michael H Goldhaber /<[log in to unmask]>/* wrote:
> From: Michael H Goldhaber <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Moderation note re Robt. Mann's post
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:34 AM
> Dear list members,
> I'd like your opinions.
> There is no obvious insult contained in the post re the David
> Horowitz organization mentioned in Robt. Mann's post, but as this
> is the notorious right-wing organization, I am not very happy
> about it being included in SftP's list. Should such messages be
> refused in future?
> Michael H. Goldhaber
> SftP list moderator