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Re: Social Networking

From:

Arthus Erea <[log in to unmask]>

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School Information Technology Discussion <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:45:05 -0400

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Sure, I know it's sarcastic... but still, your point could be  
interpreted differently and that clouds the debate.

After all, over 40% of Internet users have used drugs!

No hard feelings. :)

On Sep 21, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Vincent Rossano wrote:

> Hey, Arthus!  Lighten up, man.  It was a joke.  Irony.  You know, "a
> modest proposal". (Have you read Swift?) Like, I was kidding,  
> man. . . .
> mostly.
>
> A little comic relief now and then won't kill this list, will it?  Of
> course, it isn't comic if you didn't find it funny.  So what can I  
> say?
> Sorry.  Forgot my emoticon, didn't I?  :-)
>
> -Vince
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: School Information Technology Discussion
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Arthus Erea
>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:04 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Social Networking
>>
>> So now the Internet is a drug?
>>
>> There is no useful or safe level of drug use, but there are
>> plenty of good reasons students will have to use Internet and
>> social networking in the real world and within their own lives.
>>
>> To compare the two is simply disingenuous and clouds the debate.
>>
>> On Sep 21, 2009, at 9:15 PM, Vincent Rossano wrote:
>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: School Information Technology Discussion
>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lauren Parren
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:25 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: Social Networking
>>>> They'll be heading off to the real world soon enough and need to
>>>> practice these skills.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry, but the "real world" argument is way overrated as far as
>>> I'm concerned. I think I've made the point "ad nauseum" on
>> this list
>>> that schools were designed specifically to NOT be the real world.
>>>
>>> But, okay, if you insist on "real world" education, here's a modest
>>> proposal (speaking of nausea):
>>>
>>> Drugs are something people are exposed to out there in the
>> real world.
>>> How will kids be able to make good choices if they haven't actually
>>> experienced the drug itself, the real thing.  Why don't we
>> bring drugs
>>> into the schools so we can help kids make intelligent
>> decisions about
>>> them?  I know what you're going to say: the drugs are there
>> already.
>>> And that's the point.  These kids are using drugs all the time -
>>> without the sort of guidance committed educators can offer.
>>>
>>> Take Adderall, for instance.  (I do.)  Kids just love it.  Studies
>>> have shown it to be a wonderful aid for focusing the
>> attention, which
>>> is definitely important in education.  So why isn't Adderall in the
>>> classroom officially so ALL the kids can benefit, not just the ones
>>> from "better families" who have the bucks to buy it.  Let's end the
>>> "druggy divide".
>>> Then we can help kids learn the proper use of these
>> substances, like
>>> how to regulate their usage throughout the day so they get the big
>>> jolt right before the soccer game.  It's really all about
>> appropriate
>>> use.
>>>
>>> If we don't show these kids how to use drugs responsibly,
>> who will?
>>> For
>>> instance, I know there are kids who are wasting excessive
>> amounts of
>>> marijuana because no one has taught them how to make a decent roach
>>> clip.
>>> Here's a chance for shop class to become relevant, you know what I
>>> mean?
>>>
>>> The problem is that the educators are not keeping up to date.  How
>>> many, for instance, have done Extacy?  (Well, okay, there are some
>>> "with-it"
>>> teachers, mostly younger ones, who are savvy about this stuff, but
>>> they may not want to embarrass their older colleagues by admitting
>>> their depth
>>> - or height - of experience.)  Oh sure, you get some of these old
>>> timers who go home and get polluted on a bottle of Southern
>> Comfort or
>>> two.
>>> But
>>> that's nothing; kids today are way beyond that by the time
>> they're in
>>> 6th grade.  What's needed is a good professional
>> development program
>>> in this area.
>>>
>>> Now that's where I come in.  Give me a call and I'll meet you later
>>> tonight in the parking lot behind the Chinese restaurant. . .
>>>
>>> -Vince
>>

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