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Jane Schlossberg <[log in to unmask]>
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Vermont Birds <[log in to unmask]>
Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:24:59 -0400
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 Whoa Pam,

That is an eye-opener for me and now makes total sense. Many of the ticks I removed were in my pups were deeply embedded, as much as a 1/10 inch into the scalp leaving gaping wounds. They were both dog and deer ticks. I believe I had been told that the ticks become sluggish once the bite after frontline is applied, and when they are removed they do not try to scurry away, but I plopped them into alcohol to assure their demise. Is there any safe spray such as permethrin that can be applied to their coat that will not poison them when they lick their hair?





-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Coleman <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 8:16 pm
Subject: Re: [VTBIRD] Ticks

Just an FYI;  Frontline will not repel ticks or stop them from becoming attached 
to your dogs. It WILL, however, keep them from secreting their saliva which can 
carry the lyme organism. The tick must actually bite the dog in order to ingest 
the chemicals in frontline.  I learned this at the veterinary hospital I worked 
for a few years ago.  Cheers!


--- On Sun, 3/21/10, Jane Schlossberg <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: Jane Schlossberg <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [VTBIRD] Ticks
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Sunday, March 21, 2010, 9:25 PM

 You can buy the same stuff that the clothes are treated with, called  
"Permethrin". It is sprayed on your clothes, and once dry, it can last for 
several (up to six) washes. It is not sprayed on skin as it quickly breaks down 
and loses potency. It is odorless and claims to be non-toxic to humans, though 
obviously one should avoid eye and oral exposure. It is toxic for insects and 
aquatic life, so use common sense. I buy a brand called Sawyer's, it really 
makes a difference. I just pulled 8 ticks off my dogs (3 days after applying 
Frontline) and realized I'd forgotten to begin using the spray this season. And 
yes, not only are ticks gross, but sadly can be quite a serious health hazard. 
My son has a friend over right now that has "permanent" Lyme disease, he came 
extremely close to losing his mobility, mental capacity and life, and faces 
fighting it the illness rest of his existence. He caught in in Vermont over 12 
years ago and it was misdiagnosed in
 this state for about two years.

If you sharpen a pencil and (gently) make a mark on your skin, that is about the 
size of a typical deer tick, though some are larger, about the size of a 
freckle. If you think you could be cognizant of a minute dot crawling on your 
skin as you're focusing on watching a trail, pushing branches out of your face 
and hair, swatting black flies and mosquitoes, and listening to and observing 
birds, then you are a truly remarkably sensitive person. 

Good luck, and keep an eye out for ticks and birds,

Jane S.
St. George, VT




-----Original Message-----
From: Mundi Smithers <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2010 4:02 pm
Subject: Re: [VTBIRD] Ticks

Just ordered a pair of long pants and a long sleeved shirt from LL Bean that
are impregnated with something that will keep the ticks, mosquitoes away.
I'm usually pretty wary of chemicals of any kind BUT I have a feeling that
the risk may outweigh a case of Lyme.

Anyone have any experience with these products??

The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the hijacking of
morality by religion. -Arthur C. Clarke,  (1917-2008)