I'm happy to be providing therapeutic outlets for whatever ails Larry.
Now why not give it a rest because it won't change anything.
On Saturday, September 4, 2010, Larry Romsted
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Non Science Related Post Number 2.
> Included in Number 2 is the decade old piece by Marc Cooper about Mumia that
> Michael sent to us.
> On 9/4/10 5:18 PM, "Michael Balter" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> I'm glad that Herb found an opportunity to get this out of his system,
>> but I simply asked a question and stated my opinion--and I will
>> continue to express my views on this list despite the constant
>> personal attacks.
>> On Saturday, September 4, 2010, herb fox <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> One of the problems with off-topic contributions is that they
>>> usually provoke further off-topic responses, to wit, MB has to
>>> respond to Mitchel's post and i feel compelled to respond to
>>> Since this list is one of generally highly educated and
>>> critical persons, it would seem that we each can make our own
>>> judgments about Mitchel's post. Michael's tendency to rapidly
>>> jump in to straighten us out is, after a while, not only
>>> tiresome but insulting. I assume that all the contributors to
>>> this list approach everything with some level of skepticism
>>> and.when they deem the issue important, are willing to
>>> investigate the authority of the relevant posts
>>> Michael as a journalist has the authority to address certain
>>> questions. For example, to make a judgment on whether the film
>>> will be even handed he could examine the filmakers' past
>>> productions. See e.g.
>>> As a committed opponent of the death penalty for the guilty as
>>> well as the innocent, i have never imagined Mumia as our icon;
>>> and very few of those who share my opposition have ever
>>> mentioned his name. Yet this is the red herring that Cooper
>>> brings in and Michael considers relevant
>>> The issue raised by Mitchel's post is very simple. Do you
>>> want to support an effort by film makers to illuminate the Mumia
>>> case with a documentary as opposed to a fictionalized account.
>>> A skeptic might want to determine the objectivity of the film
>>> makers as demonstrated by past productions. That's it Michael.
>>> The rest is provocative, unnecessary, and tiresome. It is also
>>> in the category of "poisoning the well."
>>> On 9/4/2010 6:03 AM, Michael Balter wrote:
>>> This is off-topic, although I am not going to object
>>> to that nor to count Mitchel's off-topic posts. Too late for that!
>>> I am opposed to the death penalty, in Mumia's case and all
>>> others. But I wonder if Mitchel or someone else could provide a
>>> link that would provide the "mountains of
>>> evidence of Mumia's innocence"? There are certainly legitimate
>>> questions about whether he got a fair trial, and the
>>> possibility that he might be found not guilty on the basis of
>>> insufficient evidence if he were retried, but actual evidence
>>> of his innocence? Perhaps this "mountain of evidence" of his
>>> innocence will be exposed for the first time in this
>>> documentary--in which case it would indeed be a worthy cause
>>> to support. Meanwhile, excuse me for being skeptical about
>>> this statement.
>>> Another view of the Mumia case, infamous
>>> among left circles but still worth reading for those who have
>>> not seen it (or need a refresher) and who are not willing to
>>> just follow the crowd on this one, is here. It's a bit out of
>>> date, but raises the right questions in my view, both
>>> political and factual:
>>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Mitchel
>>> Cohen <[log in to unmask]>
>>> This was sent to me by my friend Chris Kinder on behalf
>>> of the Labor Action Committee to Free Mumia Abu-Jamal,
>>> based in Oakland California. Please forward it widely, and
>>> contribute the funds requested if you can. Thank you.
>>> - Mitchel Cohen
>>> Brooklyn Greens/Green Party
>>> Please forward and distribute widely €
>>> Urgent Appeal from a long-time friend of
>>> Mumia Abu-Jamal
>>> message from the Labor Action Committee To Free
>>> Mumia Abu-Jamal
>>> 03 September 2010
>>> The letter below, from Frances Goldin, Mumia's
>>> literary agent and long-time friend and supporter,
>>> is an urgent call for help which we hope you will
>>> look at closely.
>>> The life of the world's best known death row
>>> prisoner, Mumia Abu-Jamal, is under threat from many
>>> sides. One is the courts, which have refused to
>>> hear mountains of evidence of Mumia's innocence, and
>>> have denied him the benefit of established law and
>>> precedent on many occasions. Mumia's 1982 kangaroo
>>> court conviction was upheld by the Supreme Court
>>> last year. And now, the reinstatement of his death
>>> sentence, which was put on hold in 2001, is the
>>> likely outcome at the Third Circuit Court.
>>> Another threat is the so-called police "union,"
>>> the Fraternal Order of Police (FOP),
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