Really good point, Peter.
Points of difference-- adult BWs show one or at most two narrow white
bands in the dark tail, RSs usually three or even four. RSs also have
those distinctive crescent-shaped wing panels when seen from below,
although they're not always clearly visible if they're not well
back-lit. They're diagnostic for RS if you do see them, though.
And just generally, RSs are lankier birds, long-winged and long-tailed,
whereas BWs appear stockier and more compact.
Also, adult Broad-Wings migrate first, only followed at the end by the
previous year's young. So you'd really want to see that distinctive
adult tail on any early BW sighting.
On 3/24/2011 12:04 PM, Peter Riley wrote:
> In my experience it is often adult red-shoudlers that are confused
> with broad-wings since they both are buteos and both feature
> prominent bands in thier tails. Shoulders are on the move by now and
> while they will kettle like boad-wings they are less numerous.
>> Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:16:44 -0400 From:
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>> No prob. and thanks for the heads up. Like the info too. -----
>> Original Message ----- From: Jane
>> Stein<mailto:[log in to unmask]> To:
>> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday,
>> March 24, 2011 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [VTBIRD] Broad-wings
>> I assume Kent got it right, since he was clearly observing
>> carefully. But just wanted to make sure people realize the sighting
>> is very unusual
>> and BWs won't really start moving into our area for several weeks
>> or a month yet. At a distance, larger accipiters and even Red-Tails
>> can fairly easily be mistaken for BWs.
>> On 3/24/2011 11:02 AM, MARIE HEMEON wrote:
>>> LOL Blame Kent for that. Kent you better get to filling out a
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane
>>> Stein<mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
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>>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:59 AM Subject: [VTBIRD]
>>> Be real careful about identifying Broad-Winged hawks this early
>>> in the spring. The regular hawkwatches down in southern Texas
>>> have only just started to see a handful of birds coming across
>>> the border from Mexico.
>>> Years of radar studies there confirm the bulk of the migration
>>> the border over only a few weeks from late March into early
>>> April. Not to say there can't be a few "early birds," but just to
>>> be aware they're still really rare this far north until well into
>>> For folks who may not be aware-- the entire population of
>>> Broad-Wings picks up more or less at once in the fall and
>>> entirely vacates the continent for their wintering grounds in
>>> northern South America and Central America, and comes back in the
>>> spring in the same way, pretty much all at once.
>>> Jane Shoreham
>>> On 3/24/2011 8:18 AM, MARIE HEMEON wrote:
>>>> We have 96 spp. so as of this morning. 4 more to go in order to
>>>> our first 100. I believe we could do that this weekend. To that
>>>> end, I hope everyone can grab the binos this weekend and enter
>>>> a list or 2. Remember, they don't have to be new species, even
>>>> the commoners are good and increase our knowledge. Suggestions
>>>> for you all. 1. Ducks are coming thru right now. Lake Paran and
>>>> Miller's Pond are great spots. Based on personal observations,
>>>> they come in in the evening just as it is getting dark. IN
>>>> numbers. Have a good scope to help pick them out but, your
>>>> binos will get most. There must be other
>>>> spots. If you know of flooded cornfields, puddle ducks seem to
>>>> like these. There must be other lakes starting to open up. Let
>>>> us know about them. 2. Still need Phoebes, it is on the early
>>>> side but, they have been found in Windham. Keep your ears open.
>>>> 3. Sparrows. They have started to show but, the next couple of
>>>> weeks should see greater
>>>> diversity. Keep an eye on the ground under your feeders. 4.
>>>> Hawks. Broad-wings should be starting and have had a sighting
>>>> or 2 in other counties. We still need Red-shouldered too. Any
>>>> should be good to list though.
>>>> Just one of the county captains butting in. LOL Hope to see
>>>> some of you out there. Look forward to some more lists. Enjoy
>>>> Kevin (not Marie)
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