Are you kidding? By all means 'throw stuff' at intruding cats: they come into my cat-free yard and feeder area from both sides, and it only took a couple of real stones banging the ground near them to get these whip-smart beauties to back off every time they see me. In fact, just opening the door works now. It's not 100% but it's a detente of sorts, albeit not of the sentimentalist's variety.
I started this illuminating and impassioned discussion with my bbc post, have learned a lot and express gratitude to the list, while noting that the degree of righteousness expressed remains my own favorite indicator of the value of any argument.
---- On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 08:48:25 -0800 Thomas Berriman<[log in to unmask]> wrote ----
Subject: birds and cats
Date: Thu Jan 31 2013 16:31 pm
From: jeshawks AT shoreham.net
Thomas, given the really impressive background you just spelled out, I
wonder if you might explain something in your previous post that
disturbed me and some other readers far more than throwing stuff at
intruding cats, and that's your method of choice for killing mice, glue
traps and drowning.
I assume there's a reason you do it this way. I've struggled against
the necessity of killing mice and found no way around it, but I settled
on snap traps because they kill quickly and reasonably humanely. Are
those impractical for you in some way?
Glue traps are not my first choice in dealing with mice but sometimes that is the only thing that works if Snap traps have failed. A few years ago a mouse was eating the wiring in the walls of my house (this can cause fire and loss of human life) After it somehow avoided death in a snap trap I was left with having to use any method that worked. The end result once the mouse is lodged in the glue is either smacking the mouse with a hammer or dropping him into a bucket of water.
When we think about humane killing (there's an interesting concept) I guess every species would like it to be swift and painless. That doesn't always happen in the natural world. But you are right that given the choice most of the time I would use a snap trap or a 'havaheart' trap which may or may not work 100% of the time. So much depends upon the circumatances.
Still given what is humane and inhumane (and every person has their own concept or guidelines for how they define that) Many, many people 'love' animals as I do yet when I ask them what animal they cooked for their family dinner last night or what can of processed animal food they opened and fed their pet cat or dog today, what they really mean is I love my pet even if it means several other animal species must be .....what humanly harvested.
I understand this surprisingly, My choice is 99% of the time to try to do no harm. I have found in 20 years I get along quite well without having to 'harvest ' many of those other species.
posted by Veer Frost, Passumpsic