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MEDLIB-L June 2013, Week 2

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Re: Wikipedia Questions

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"Titus, Mollie" <[log in to unmask]>

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Titus, Mollie

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I agree with Bill, I've given out clinical Wikipedia information before as supplementary material with disclaimers, usually on a topic I can't find a good amount (or any) information on.

And I use Wikipedia personally.

As with all information, it pays to look at the references for any given article, blurb, website, book, etc. - it also pays to look at the information elsewhere and not rely solely upon a single resource, whatever it may be.

Off topic slightly, I was defending Wikipedia against a group of fired-up amateur historians on a Facebook page I follow - they were adamant that Wikipedia was absolutely the worst, never reliable, a joke, they would die before trusting and recommending, on and on...then I actually looked up the article in question, looked at the references, and pointed out that the references being used for the Wikipedia article they were insisting was so wrong were books and articles by well-known and respected historians that they were suggesting be read, instead...


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From: Medical Libraries Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nichols, William
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 10:58 AM
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Subject: Re: Wikipedia Questions

Re #1, I would say yes, still 3rd-tier reliability at best.  On #2, yes, I have, on any number of occasions, but always strictly as supplementary material, & with appropriate disclaimers to that effect.


Bill


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From: Medical Libraries Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ratti, Michael
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 10:52 AM
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Subject: Wikipedia Questions

Hello List,

Today I presented to the 1st year interns and was asked a question after my presentation which really made me ponder further and thought perhaps the collective knowledge of the list has some good information or opinions to spark a discussion which could be valuable to all.

So the 1st year resident asked me "What is your opinion of Wikipedia for learning clinical content"? Well my first reaction was my facial expression cringing alittle. Then my answer was "I would not use the clinical content on Wikipedia for patient care and I would be skeptical of reading the content for personal education purposes that did not have primary Literature or reliable health literature (e.g., Medlineplus) referenced which you could link to and confirm what you are reading on a Wikipedia page is valid medical information."

The person then replied. "Well what about for just a general overview"? I basically reiterated my above statement.

So I started Thinking...Pondering...Contemplating...then my inquisitive Librarian side took over and I fired up the browser and found this:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine#Work_behind_the_scenes

And read this on the above linked page:

We want Wikipedia to have reliable, neutral, and accessible information on medical topics. We are currently working towards these five milestones:
1.    All top-importance articles<http://toolserver.org/~enwp10/bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&projecta=Medicine&importance=Top-Class&quality=Assessed> at B-class<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GRADES> quality or above (78.2% complete) (with a priority on improving these 11 articles<http://toolserver.org/~enwp10/bin/list2.fcgi?run=yes&projecta=WikiProject_Medicine_Translation_Task_Force&quality=C-Class>)
2.    All of the top-500<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MED500> articles at C-class or above (85.0% complete)
3.    25% of all articles at C-class or above (71.2% complete)
4.    100 good articles of top- and high-importance topics (40.0% complete)
5.    200 good articles total (67.5% complete)

AND this:
*         Improve existing articles. As of March 5, 2013<http://toolserver.org/~svick/CleanupListing/CleanupListingByCat.php?project=Medicine>, out of the 26885 articles in this project, 9703 or 36.1 % were marked for cleanup, with 18170 issues in total. We would like to turn the historical tide<http://toolserver.org/~svick/CleanupListing/CleanupListingHistory.php?project=Medicine> on this figure, so that we generate a track record of reduced issue counts. Feel free to strategize or ask for people's help on the talk page<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:MED>.

Also: Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS



Was my answer the best answer I could have provided the resident? I don't know for sure.


So my questions to you are...


Is Wikipedia still skeptically viewed as non-validated, non-peer-reviewed content for Clinical Information that should not be used for patient care or personal clinical education under any circumstance without validating the content from the peer-reviewed literature?

I NEVER have done this. But I am wondering has a Librarian searched clinical content on Wikipedia and provided clinical information in your search results for your clinical patrons?


Any other opinions, facts or anecdotes are welcomed!


I will be happy to summarize for the list.

Happy Friday

Thank you

Mike


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