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Jane Stein <[log in to unmask]>
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Vermont Birds <[log in to unmask]>
Sun, 26 Feb 2017 19:58:42 -0500
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Ian, why/how would a snow-Canada hybrid be bigger than a Canada?


On 2/26/2017 7:50 PM, Ian Worley wrote:
> Hi Bob,
> Thanks for the thought. I didn't get a good enough look to really
> explore the options. I would have, if the group had stayed in place.
> My starting point was the heft of the bird, so noticeably larger in
> appearance than the Canadas it was with, which were small Canadas if the
> Snow Goose was a normal size. That sent my brain to a domestic goose of
> some sort, but I couldn't make that hold up later with a cursory on-line
> search.
> I've seen all sorts of leucistic birds with varying degrees and
> distributions of white. That may not have jumped into my mind because I
> perceived the bird to be more stocky than a Canada Goose. I haven't
> forgot about other species being hybridized as well.
> I'll try to find it again tomorrow. Where first seen it was only
> 300-400 feet away. Where it went was 4000 feet distant, and there was a
> lot of heat distortion in the cold air over the warm ground of the last
> few days. If I do refind it, I'm curious to see if my quick
> observations in that limited time hold up during a more sustained and
> comprehensive view.
> Best regards,
> Ian
> ------------------------------------------------------
> On 2/26/2017 7:12 PM, anneboby wrote:
>> Ian - may I suggest it was possibly a leucistic Canada (a bird with
>> partial white plumage) rather than a hybrid. I suggest this after
>> recently banding my second leucistic Red-tailed Hawk in NY.
>> Bob Yunick
>> Schenectady, NY
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ian Worley <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: VTBIRD <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sun, Feb 26, 2017 1:37 pm
>> Subject: [VTBIRD] Snow Goose x Canada Goose hybrid .. Lemon Fair WMA,
>> Cornwall.
>> While beginning to count 2300 Canada Geese today in the flooded Lemon
>> Fair River flats west of West Street, Cornwall, I came upon a noticeably
>> large goose, as compared with the Canada Geese and one Snow Goose it was
>> foraging with. I was struck by its size, but it didn't really look like
>> any domestic goose with which I am familiar. I now think it is a Snow
>> Goose x Canada Goose hybrid.
>> As I was taking notes on its plumage, the ensemble of geese bolted as an
>> immature Red-tailed Hawk made a zooming pass. They landed about 0.3
>> miles up stream with other geese at a location I could not see well.
>> I saw the bird from right and left rear quarter view as it swam and when
>> it took flight. It was dark bodied above, and white below. The wings
>> were dark but the outer primaries were all white and very striking in
>> flight. My look at the neck was remembered poorly, though it definitely
>> was not white. The head was prominently pied in color, a mottling of
>> dark spots or blotches on a white field. I did not see the bill or feet
>> with any clarity.
>> Ian