This list is potentially a rich source of information for non-scientists, but the presence of freakish non-scientists or what amounts to anti-science could limit if not destroy such use. In 2001 conspiracist accounts grounded in false engineering were a barrier to serious anti-war organizing. One hates to see false science spread on a Science for the People list.
I hope SFtP finds a way to be open to non-scientists seeking knowledge without conspiricism etc undermining the trustworthiness of the list for such readers.
From: Science for the People Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chandler Davis
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 6:08 PM
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Subject: are we science or pseudoscience?
Don't quit! More of us are believers in science than in imaginary universal consciousness. Let me appeal to the core Science for the People members to do more posting to the list. I intend to stick with it.
On 2018-01-23 1:52 PM, Jonathan wrote:
Can someone, maybe an admin, help me to unsubscribe?. I can't find a link for that.
I'm not interested anymore in this pseudo-science-for-the-people list.
On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 1:37 PM, Maggie Zhou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Quantum Physicist John Hagelin:
"The universe is overwhelmingly conscious", "your consciousness, my consciousness", it's all one. Everything is just "waves of frequency in this one ocean". "We individualize our consciousness through the filter of our nervous system, but the consciousness itself, our very inner subjectivity ... is universal."
"A wave function (the building blocks of matter) ...... are made of the same stuff that thoughts are made of. We're really living in a thought universe". Smallest particles of matter turns out to be random quantum information particles, influenced by an observer, consciousness. "The unified field is the most concentrated field of intelligence in nature - non material, dynamic, self aware, intelligent ...... pure abstract potential, pure abstract being, pure abstract self aware consciousness".
WARS CAN BE STOPPED if a large enough portion of the population embraces this message of enlightenment!
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