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Jim West <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 16 Sep 2019 01:45:42 -0400
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Your reply is ad hominem. Where you not taught the problems that brings? That it is logical fallacy? Uncivil? Off topic?

Your primary assertion is, "You have a very long-standing prejudice against vaccination that would bias any study you do."

Can you prove that?

Jim West

Jim West,

You have a very long-standing prejudice against vaccination that would bias any study you do. Why should your investigation be considered remotely credible? Did you or anyone predict in advance that specifically measles would result from the pollution you cite? If so, why measles, and why that year, when the pollution was not new? What specific mechanisms do you propose would cause a rise in measles just then?

Why would the cases fall off if the pollution continues? What about upstate measles cases and cases in other states? Are they all near superfund sites? Or are you, ex post facto, noting a random correlation? Do you suppose if so there is anything remotely scientific about your conclusions?

The idea of herd immunity and of a specific population that refuses immunization leading to increased cases is well established and predictive. Why do the more or less random correlations you cite in any way undermine those well established expectations?

I doubt you have any even moderately reasonable answers that come anywhere close to disproving the standard explanation. 

Meanwhile you are busily trying to undercut public confidence in vaccination, which, without serious scientific justification will only help endanger innocent people. Why isn’t that odious?

Michael via iPhone, so please ecuse misteaks.

On Sep 14, 2019, at 12:38 PM, Jim West <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

NYC DOH investigated record-high measles epidemics in 2019, however, they did not conduct an environmental review of the OBVIOUS.

All epicenters are downwind from frack-gas fueled power plants, and suffer intense ground pollution from massive legacy industry (solvent spills). EPA Superfund Sites correlate with measles case counts. Measles virology omits proper controls and toxicological factors are not discounted.

A vaccine cannot immunize you from this. It will certainly immunize industry from liability. The epicenters are commercial areas worth trillions.

Jim West