What 'proof' do you expect, Mitchel?
If I had the nerve to bother top virologists with this issue right now, I am confident they could provide the info you require re genetics. It is clear from the way they speak that this info is common knowledge among them.
What puzzles me is the Occam's Razor factor: why do people *want* to believe that a virus - in no important way very different to others that have preceded it - is made by humans?
"The origin and pathway of the coronavirus pandemic shouldn’t surprise us. The SARS epidemic in 2003 jumped to humans from civet cats, sold in markets as pets and as a delicacy. MERS was transmitted to humans from camels in 2012. Avian influenza, Nipah virus, Ebola, HIV… all of these and many other Emerging Infectious Diseases (EIDs) originated in animals and were transmitted to humans – a phenomenon called zoonosis. In fact, it’s estimated that over 60% of all EID events worldwide are zoonoses, and within the zoonosis, the great majority (over 70%) originate in wildlife." (https://blogs.worldbank.org/voices/coronavirus-and-pangolin-effect-increased-exposure-wildlife-poses-health-biosafety-and)
It's happened before with every kind of pathogen, and it will happen again.
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From: Science for the People Discussion List <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Mitchel Cohen
Sent: 22 March 2020 09:44 AM
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Subject: Re: Coronavirus not made in a lab
One problem with this interesting "proof" that the CORVID-19 virus could not have been genetically engineered by humans has already been disproven regarding pangolins.
Another problem is the same that Descartes had in his Meditations: The construction is too "great", too much NOT what scientists would have developed had they wanted to make a destructive virus, that it had to come from someplace else, in Descartes' argument "God" and in this "proof" "Nature".
There's no proof offered at all based on examining the actual genetic sequence here, even though that sequencing has been done. Some have pointed (elsewhere) to specific points in that sequence that appear to have been inserted (whether the authors of the paper think that it makes sense or not). And the paper doesn't address them in specific, just in a general dismissal.
>I am agnostic on the question of whether CORVID-19 was genetically engineered or not. It certainly is possible, and the arguments in this paper are, like Descartes', so weak as to make me wonder about the honesty of what they are attempting -- at least as reported in the article.
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