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COMMUNET  September 1993, Week 3

COMMUNET September 1993, Week 3

Subject:

Re: Fido/BBS/Unix

From:

Stephen Williams <[log in to unmask]>

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Communet: Community and Civic Network Discussion List

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Mon, 20 Sep 1993 17:07:26 -0400

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>
> I might already know the answer to this but have forgotten it:
> Why do community systems need unix machines, workstations, etc.? Can't they
> run well, even allowing for Internet gateways, under BBS software, say
> with OS2?
>
 
I believe that by the time you get all the features working, you need
something equivalent to Unix.  So why not use it?  Especially when the
software base is available, free, and tested to death.
 
> One issue facing our community as we start up is  what kind of system we
> should use. And why unix? Why not Syunchronet or VBBS or...you name it
> BBS software? I know the *tradition* is unix and the *history* is unix,
> but what makes unix right? Is it *that* much more stable?
>
 
Yes, IMHO.  Much less headache to develop for also.
 
> One reason I ask is that pc's running bbs software cost less to set up.
 
Why do you think that?
 
I disagree except in the case of a single line extremely minimal
setup.
 
For just a little ram and HD space, I can have full multi-tasking,
crash proofing, memory space protection, etc.  Email and News are
freely available and easy to setup.  And I can scale to almost any
size.
 
You can use Linux, which I am, and a cheap multi-port board to get
full Internet email/news for up to 8 lines.  Linux is free, basically,
and 8 ports would cost you about $200.
 
Getting it setup as a bbs is a bit of work, and you can do it yourself
or pay someone to setup and maintain, as I'm doing.
 
> Beyond that, I just wonder.
>
> Re: Fidonet...obviously Fido has real utility in a free system because it
> is mostly free, unlike the Internet. The drawback is that it is slow. Also,
> it doesn't allow ftp. And you do telnet the old-fashioned way: you dial
> up another system. :-)
>
 
I've used at least 50 different systems, including CIS for >10yrs.,
dozens of BBS's, Lexis/Nexis, prodigy, etc.  Unix systems and standard
software (Tin, Elm, INN) for email, news, etc. is FAR easier and more
efficient to use than any of the others.  Not to mention far more
powerful and scaleble.
 
I've been searching for features that make the BBS software better
than my current collection of Unix apps.  I'd really like some solid
ideas.
 
> Any others have thoughts on these issues?
>
> Steve Snow
> [log in to unmask]
>
> p.s.: big sky, i think is set up on a bbs-based system and uses fidonet,
> but also uses Internet.
>
 
Hostname: bigsky.bigsky.dillon.mt.us
 
 
UNIX System V Release 3.2 (bigsky.bigsky.dillon.mt.us) (ttyp2)
 
login: bbs
Last   successful login for bbs: Tue Sep 14 12:53:56 MDT 1993 on ttyp3
Last unsuccessful login for bbs: Fri Apr 30 20:15:59 MDT 1993 on ttyp1
SCO UNIX System V/386 Release 3.2
Copyright (C) 1976-1989 UNIX System Laboratories, Inc.
Copyright (C) 1980-1989 Microsoft Corporation
Copyright (C) 1983-1992 The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
All Rights Reserved
bigsky
XBBS    Version 7.95  05/03/90
 
Nope.  A public bbs running on SCO.  I think it suffers from the
typical problems of a PC bbs as far as efficiency.  Tin is far more
efficient at dicussion groups than any of the Echo's or Message bases.
 
Only CIS with CIM ever approached something as efficient.
 
Fido interaction is supported by public com software.
 
sdw
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