While I am sympathetic with where you appear to be coming from, I must
agree with Anthony on this one point. Never, to my knowledge, has anyone
said that someone must be excluded from the conversation because they are
white. Some nasty words have passed between the two of you recently, and
some of them were, in my view, totally inapproriately forwarded to
UVMTODAY. Please try to be more circumspect in future email exchanges.
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On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, Emiliano Zapata wrote:
> When have you proven this, Ed? Where has this statement been posted about
> people with white skin? You cannot prove it because it was never spoken
> by a knowledgeable person who *knows* what the racism struggle on campus
> is about. No brag. Just fact.
> On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, Ed wrote:
> > Anthony,
> > You and I have gone round and round about this subject. I have proven
> > what has been said. Jeff, Daren and you have consistently flamed me for
> > my views and never truly looked at what I was saying to you.
> > I am very honest and sincere. I know what is going on out in the world.
> > Serving six years in the Submarine service has given an education that I
> > can not buy!!!
> > I want to see leaders live up to what they are preaching, and acknowledge
> > when they slip up and say something that is wrong!
> > I have admitted when I was wrong in what I have said. Some people have
> > yet to come forward.
> > On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, Emiliano Zapata wrote:
> > > On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, Ed wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thank you for finally addressing an issue that I feel needed to be
> > > > brought forward here at this University! No one should be afraid to
> > > > discuss issues about race and the history of this country with race and the
> > > > school itself. The people who continually attack and confront a person
> > > > for their opinion on the basis, "That because you are white, and you were
> > > > brought up in a country with a history of abuse along racial lines, means
> > > > you can not participate in the debate due to your skin being white." is
> > > > very wrong.
> > >
> > > Ed: I agree. It is very wrong for someone to be told what you cite
> > > here. Now, sir, I will ask you to do what white people are always telling
> > > people of color to do when they are shut out: Prove that this has happened.
> > >
> > > There is plenty of archival information from UVM today. Show us all where
> > > this has been said. And if you don't have the time perhaps Cooley,
> > > Bishop, Rein, or any other white person who is insinuating that they have
> > > been shut out can show all of us that this has happened.
> > >
> > > While you are at it, maybe some of you who are claiming to be so clear on
> > > the issues would try at least *once* to articulate the central arguments and
> > > principles which the Commission and OMA and ALANA students at large were
> > > presenting.
> > >
> > > The perception I have of the people who are crying "shutout!" is that they
> > > cannot articulate the platform of the opposition and therefore cannot be
> > > viewed as 1) people of good will 2) responsible members of the UVM
> > > community and 3) anti-racist. It seems to me that "goodwill" and
> > > responsibility go hand in hand with good faith.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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