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COMMUNET  October 1996, Week 4

COMMUNET October 1996, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Community Net Stats

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Angela:

        This looks pretty good to me.  On your last point, however, I think
it would be useful to get some of the connotation of *value judgment* out of
*from the bottom up*, if that phrase is going to be used.  The democracy and
sharing that I believe are or should be inherent in well-functioning
community networks imply some sort of commerce, and not just in one
direction.  Things aren't inherently more valuable because they develop
*from the bottom up* any more than if they develop *from the top down.*  And
both kinds of communication ought be allowed to be part of a community
network.  Exclusivity in terms of the locus of communication or action that
may follow from it has no place, here, in my opinion.

        Racist-inspired beatings and killings in the American South, e.g.,
of a few decades ago developed essentially from the bottom up, while
successful federal intervention to stop them developed from the top down.

        I recommend you consider conceptualizing the matter of how
communication occurs in successful networks as not related to its locus, but
rather to measures of the extent of information sharing, debate (yes, even
arguments from time to time), consensus, changed opinions, and how (or if)
dissenters are accomodated.

                        Regards,

                        Dave Farley
                        Grants and Development Officer
                        Office of the Mayor
                        512 City County Building
                        Pittsburgh, PA 15219
                        PHONE:  (412) 255-4765
                        FAX:    (412) 255-2687
                        EMAIL:  <[log in to unmask]>
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At 08:00 PM 10/22/96 -0500, you wrote:
>On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, "Ronald D. Doctor" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>To be included in the Directory:
>>
>>1. The CN should be people-oriented, rather than place-oriented, but it should
>>   be place-focused.
>>
>>2. The CN should have some measure of interactivity, either direct (as in chat
>>   or time-synchronous systems) or indirect (as in discussion forums, or
>>   time-asynchronous systems).
>>
>>3. Access to the CN should be widely available through some combination of
>>   dial-up via modem and public access terminals. That is, a system that has
>>   access through the Internet/Web without provision for a network of
>>   public access terminals would be excluded from the Directory. It is very
>>   difficult to identify which systems meet or do not meet this criterion. We
>>   have had to use considerable judgement in selecting appropriate systems.
>>
>>4. The CN  should be organized from the bottom-up rather than from top-down.
>>   Thus, we have tried to exclude systems that are strictly Chamber of
>>   Commerce Web pages, Tourist Promotional sites, and Municipal Government
>>   sites that are strictly informational and not interactive. Lots of
>>   judgement is involved in this selection, and we know we have violated this
>>   criterion in a number of cases. Over time, we will clean up the database.
>>
>>5. The CN should have diverse information offerings. However, we have included
>>   a number of systems that focus almost exclusively on K-12 education. We
>>   need to tighten up this criterion for future editions of the Directory.
>
>>Ron Doctor, Associate Professor
>>[log in to unmask]
>
>
>I'm writing my master's thesis on the extent of local community involvement 
>resulting from community networks and I have been dealing with the issue of
how 
>to define community networks.  Doug Schuler and others use the term to include 
>non-place based community networks.  Since I am studying those with a more
local 
>focus, I have taken to refering to them as Local Community Networks,
defines as 
>follows:
>
>A Local Community Network:
>Is place based.
>Provides users with access to local information.
>Provides users with electronic access to one another.
>
>A Local Community Network may:
>Be a Bulletin Board Service (BBS).
>Have World Wide Web (WWW) pages.
>Provide access to local residents, businesses, organizations, and government 
>offices.
>Provide Internet access.
>Facilitate discussion among the residents.
>
>A Local Community Network does not:
>Always provide Internet access.
>Specifically facilitate communication for a non-placed based community.
> 
>I would like to include the criterion of being organized from the bottom up as 
>Don does but I don't think one can determine that by just looking at the 
>network.  Questions as to who determined menu subjects, content, and public 
>access sites would have to be asked.  Comments?
>
>~Angela
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>/  Angela Stuber						  \	
>/  Urban Affairs Center			419-530-3447		  \
>/  University of Toledo			fax  530-3548		  \
>/  Toledo OH 43607  USA			[log in to unmask]  \
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>
>
>

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